Parsing unfair but okay?

[Johaandr]

I mean. Eh. Someone who got from Orange down to purple/blue/green parse over the years find it that is has no Value anymore.
Fflog was fun back in the days but not anymore. There are ways to get «top». (Padding, doing raids on monday where there are few people eteetc)

When years go by… people wont care for fflog. I certainly Dont anymore.
There was a person On PF savage (this tier) asked me to show my fflog for his kill run.
He saw blue and thought it was bad.. then i proceed to tell him that he should check out my older ones. Yikes he changed his mind and kept me.
But i left

Im glad i started playing this game on ps4. Made me more aware of my own skills than relying on other sort of 3rd party tool. But after changing to PC during ShB. Ouuf so worth it!

But i dont find parsing any harm if you JUST keep it for yourself. I just dislike the whole fflog thing going on these days… «defining players worth» ..

[Rolder50]

I mean. Eh. Someone who got from Orange down to purple/blue/green parse over the years find it that is has no Value anymore.
Fflog was fun back in the days but not anymore. There are ways to get «top». (Padding, doing raids on monday where there are few people eteetc)

When years go by… people wont care for fflog. I certainly Dont anymore.
There was a person On PF savage (this tier) asked me to show my fflog for his kill run.
He saw blue and thought it was bad.. then i proceed to tell him that he should check out my older ones. Yikes he changed his mind and kept me.
But i left

Im glad i started playing this game on ps4. Made me more aware of my own skills than relying on other sort of 3rd party tool. But after changing to PC during ShB. Ouuf so worth it!

But i dont find parsing any harm if you JUST keep it for yourself. I just dislike the whole fflog thing going on these days… «defining players worth» ..

Realistically anything that's not sub-30 or so should be good enough for most people. Though, you mention your own parses, but I can't seem to find any from ya. Interesting.

[IdowhatIwant]

Realistically anything that's not sub-30 or so should be good enough for most people. Though, you mention your own parses, but I can't seem to find any from ya. Interesting.

I just cleared p1s with a dark knight in 0%... So sub 30 doesn't matter. As long as total DPS checks out.

In the end I have hit enrage more due to people not doing mechanics than DPS issues.

[ShaneDawn]

I just cleared p1s with a dark knight in 0%... So sub 30 doesn't matter. As long as total DPS checks out.

In the end I have hit enrage more due to people not doing mechanics than DPS issues.

Someone always has to parse 0% in a given fight, that does not mean you should dismiss logs in your recruitment process. Try filling your party with nothing but resident grey loggers and see how well that goes. You will never clear the doorboss of P4S like that even if mechanics are performed correctly. At the very least not until the group outgears the content by a huge margin.

Sub-30 is a pretty arbitrary number to give, but nothing wrong with having any form of a standard in your recruitment.

[Johaandr]

Realistically anything that's not sub-30 or so should be good enough for most people. Though, you mention your own parses, but I can't seem to find any from ya. Interesting.

Interesting indeed. I could open and send u dm. Otw it is on private.

[Kolsykol]

I mean. Eh. Someone who got from Orange down to purple/blue/green parse over the years find it that is has no Value anymore.
Fflog was fun back in the days but not anymore. There are ways to get «top». (Padding, doing raids on monday where there are few people eteetc)

When years go by… people wont care for fflog. I certainly Dont anymore.
There was a person On PF savage (this tier) asked me to show my fflog for his kill run.
He saw blue and thought it was bad.. then i proceed to tell him that he should check out my older ones. Yikes he changed his mind and kept me.
But i left

Im glad i started playing this game on ps4. Made me more aware of my own skills than relying on other sort of 3rd party tool. But after changing to PC during ShB. Ouuf so worth it!

But i dont find parsing any harm if you JUST keep it for yourself. I just dislike the whole fflog thing going on these days… «defining players worth» ..

In WoW people will get others or even the group killed just to parse higher it has become so normal and expected to use it in WoW that mechanics takes second priority...

I think it's pretty obvious when someone doesn't know what they're doing at least if you're paying a little bit of attention to other stuff going on than just yourself.
I can't rly think of a time where we died to enrage and everyone survived through the whole fight, if you can survive the whole fight then chances are that you're also good enough to push out enough dps to kill ( and I can easily see by inspecting if you're geared or not ).

I don't rly care if someone parses Orange when they're alive it matters to me more how much time they spend being dead.
But yeah to me I don't use it in fights I don't like the added pressure and it's not fun to me, I also found that I looked at it too much in WoW when I used dps meters.
Better to pay more attention to the fight instead.
But I enjoy it outside of content to hit dummies and see my characters growth with gear ( obv not accurate but still ).

[YukikoKurosawa]

What I don't get is, how is one supposed to know that FFlogs is even accurate? It's a third party website that relies on information obtained from an addon that you would be banned if you got caught having to begin with, so it's already dubious. For example, I don't have it, but I've found sometimes people have submitted logs of fights I've been involved in. On my highest parse according to FFlogs, a fight where I didn't die, maintained consistent damage output, didn't fail any mechanics, and have full 580 gear materia'd correctly as a SAM, I only did high green parse.

Like, I don't get it. I get fights where I died multiple times but fights where I performed perfectly I'm somehow still doing low parses as one of the highest dps jobs. On one fight, a machinist was the top parser which is absurd. I have to question if, when I'm performing my rotation correctly and consistently, not failing mechanics, and not dying, highly geared and fully materia'd, if I'm STILL registering with medicore parses, if this information is even worth taking seriously. I'm highly geared with the right materia, performed properly, did all the mechanics right, didn't die, and the boss went down and very fast, and that's still not enough according to a third party website to net me high parses.

I literally don't care, and I can't take anyone who does care seriously. If these logs didn't exist I would just assume I did well.

[Casualty]

What I don't get is, how is one supposed to know that FFlogs is even accurate? It's a third party website that relies on information obtained from an addon that you would be banned if you got caught having to begin with, so it's already dubious. For example, I don't have it, but I've found sometimes people have submitted logs of fights I've been involved in. On my highest parse according to FFlogs, a fight where I didn't die, maintained consistent damage output, didn't fail any mechanics, and have full 580 gear materia'd correctly as a SAM, I only did high green parse.

Like, I don't get it. I get fights where I died multiple times but fights where I performed perfectly I'm somehow still doing low parses as one of the highest dps jobs. On one fight, a machinist was the top parser which is absurd. I have to question if, when I'm performing my rotation correctly and consistently, not failing mechanics, and not dying, highly geared and fully materia'd, if I'm STILL registering with medicore parses, if this information is even worth taking seriously. I'm highly geared with the right materia, performed properly, did all the mechanics right, didn't die, and the boss went down and very fast, and that's still not enough according to a third party website to net me high parses.

I literally don't care, and I can't take anyone who does care seriously. If these logs didn't exist I would just assume I did well.

This is exactly a situation where having the information benefits you. You think you are playing perfectly and without error, and without that information you would continue to play the same way until you hit a wall, such a savage fight, and then be frustrated without a clear direction for what the issue is. This may not describe you specifically, but there are players where you are at currently who do have those goals in mind. With the data, you can take that parse through xiv analysis and see what you are missing. For example, here is a fight where you have 0 deaths. https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/aN8zmyvg6BR4DF1C/1/6 I make no judgements, but it does give some suggestions for areas of opportunity and growth that appear to be consistent across many of the other fights you have participated in. Perhaps you are a person who only does normal trials/raids and has no aspirations for anything more difficult - this information is likely not as relevant outside self-improvement.

If you are skeptical, you could try comparing your battle log to what is being reported (although tedious).

[YukikoKurosawa]

This is exactly a situation where having the information benefits you. You think you are playing perfectly and without error, and without that information you would continue to play the same way until you hit a wall, such a savage fight, and then be frustrated without a clear direction for what the issue is. This may not describe you specifically, but there are players where you are at currently who do have those goals in mind. With the data, you can take that parse through xiv analysis and see what you are missing. For example, here is a fight where you have 0 deaths. https://xivanalysis.com/fflogs/aN8zmyvg6BR4DF1C/1/6 I make no judgements, but it does give some suggestions for areas of opportunity and growth that appear to be consistent across many of the other fights you have participated in. Perhaps you are a person who only does normal trials/raids and has no aspirations for anything more difficult - this information is likely not as relevant outside self-improvement.

If you are skeptical, you could try comparing your battle log to what is being reported (although tedious).

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

[Menriq]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

You are more than welcome to this opinion, but it doesn't negate the fact that the reason you are parsing lower is because those who are using those abilities when you are not. This isn't a matter of the tool being wrong, it's a matter of playstyle.