Parsing unfair but okay?

[YukikoKurosawa]

You are more than welcome to this opinion, but it doesn't negate the fact that the reason you are parsing lower is because those who are using those abilities when you are not. This isn't a matter of the tool being wrong, it's a matter of playstyle.

If someone could actually explain to me what they're useful for I would, until then, they're just button bloat to me. It's not just I think they're useless, it's the entire way SAM plays that makes me question why I would ever use those two abilities, they seem pointless in relation to the entire playstyle.

To put it into perspective, I have a much better comprehension of Mahjong than I do the usage of those two abilities. They have eternally perplexed me since I picked up this job and not a single guide has ever made me understand why I would not just see them as button bloat.

[Johaandr]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

From my experience coming from ps4. All the data i had was what it was infront of me.. That way i knew what i needed to adjust for gameplay until i start hearing about fflog. I went in there and checked out of curiosity. It wasnt that bad afterall. yeah it may have improved my way of playing but not by much.
Sure it has benefits. But i still believe that we are provided enough information right infront of us without all these data math. But you can always improve. I sound naiv but i got asian gene bahahaha jkjk.

But i wish people were awere of the factors that plays in for having higher parse score for your page in that site... Having static, good gear, Time on killing boss, Buff Allignments, Padded?? etc etc. Heck even what day ur doing it.

[HyoMinPark]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

If you aren’t utilizing your full toolkit, it doesn’t matter that you didn’t die or executed mechanics flawlessly. You’re failing at the one true job a SAM has: dealing damage. Meikyo usage is fundamental—it isn’t even min-max levels of optimization.

You’re within your rights not to care about your performance—but don’t be irritated if someone happens to point it out. The absence of Meikyo usage doesn’t even require a log to see: someone could simply watch your buff bar during combat.

[BaconBits]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

Two of the most important skills in your repertoire goes completely unused and you wonder why you're dealing low damage as a Samurai?

[Brownondorf]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

You are surprised that you are parsing low but yet you admit that you aren't using one of, if not, the most important skill (meikyo) and hagakure? Thats like a Sage not using his Kardia or a Warrior never using inner release...
And you think using LB3 magically make you parse low?
Are you for real?

[Risvertasashi]

What I don't get is, how is one supposed to know that FFlogs is even accurate? It's a third party website that relies on information obtained from an addon that you would be banned if you got caught having to begin with, so it's already dubious. For example, I don't have it, but I've found sometimes people have submitted logs of fights I've been involved in. On my highest parse according to FFlogs, a fight where I didn't die, maintained consistent damage output, didn't fail any mechanics, and have full 580 gear materia'd correctly as a SAM, I only did high green parse.

Like, I don't get it. I get fights where I died multiple times but fights where I performed perfectly I'm somehow still doing low parses as one of the highest dps jobs. On one fight, a machinist was the top parser which is absurd. I have to question if, when I'm performing my rotation correctly and consistently, not failing mechanics, and not dying, highly geared and fully materia'd, if I'm STILL registering with medicore parses, if this information is even worth taking seriously. I'm highly geared with the right materia, performed properly, did all the mechanics right, didn't die, and the boss went down and very fast, and that's still not enough according to a third party website to net me high parses.

I literally don't care, and I can't take anyone who does care seriously. If these logs didn't exist I would just assume I did well.

There is a level of inaccuracy/estimation and simulation involved, but they're pretty transparent about exactly how they make their calculations, and as far as rankings go, well, everyone gets the same approximations. if you want to compare, go hit the SSS dummy and look at the numbers the game reports as your DPS and compare to FF logs or whatever. It should be very close, but not perfectly matching.

Now, as for your personal rankings, there's a lot that goes into it and isn't necessarily within your control. For example, having a food buff up and using potions has a substantial impact, even if all other elements are perfect or close enough. And right now people aren't highly geared, so gear differences have a big impact as well. And then if you're not in a party that provides raid buffs, or people can't keep their windows aligned, that'll be another hit to ranking.

If you really want to know, throw up your logs somewhere and ask for feedback and people can identify specific things that may be an issue - whether or not that's your rotation. (Also, be careful getting your advice from The Balance, they're ok for getting to a baseline but somewhat often make suggestions that are actually terrible for optimizing your DPS in the high end).

[YukikoKurosawa]

There is a level of inaccuracy/estimation and simulation involved, but they're pretty transparent about exactly how they make their calculations, and as far as rankings go, well, everyone gets the same approximations. if you want to compare, go hit the SSS dummy and look at the numbers the game reports as your DPS and compare to FF logs or whatever. It should be very close, but not perfectly matching.

Now, as for your personal rankings, there's a lot that goes into it and isn't necessarily within your control. For example, having a food buff up and using potions has a substantial impact, even if all other elements are perfect or close enough. And right now people aren't highly geared, so gear differences have a big impact as well. And then if you're not in a party that provides raid buffs, or people can't keep their windows aligned, that'll be another hit to ranking.

If you really want to know, throw up your logs somewhere and ask for feedback and people can identify specific things that may be an issue - whether or not that's your rotation. (Also, be careful getting your advice from The Balance, they're ok for getting to a baseline but somewhat often make suggestions that are actually terrible for optimizing your DPS in the high end).

Well I don't use food or potions in normal content. I'm sure that has some impact.

Regardless, if parses are so important, why do I have to use third party tools to know what they are? Third party tools that are a bannable offense to even have? My perspective is, if it's not in the game, I don't care. If it's such an integral system, then put in the game. Otherwise, why should I care?

[Johaandr]

Regardless, if parses are so important, why do I have to use third party tools to know what they are?

Thing is they arent. They just provide "missing" data for people. They want to stay consistent in what they r doing and improve..

[YukikoKurosawa]

Thing is they arent.

Then why should I care? If it matters it should be in the game. If it genuinely does matter, than it's bad design to not have it ingame. Yet nowhere does the game include parsing tools. Nowhere does the game suggest I need them to understand how to play, and it does have multiple tutorials and a ingame guides. Yet nowhere does parsing exist officially. In fact, they ban you for having the tools to see them. I'll care about parsing the second it's an official ingame tool, otherwise, it's irrelevant. And if someone ingame tells me to show them my parses, then they can enjoy their ban.

If I wanted to play a game where I must rely on third party tools to actually play the game than I'd be playing World of Warcatft (Property of Microsoft).

[van_arn]

I've never used and will never use Meikyo Shisui or Hagakure because I just have never seen the point of them, as far as I'm concerned they're just redundant and or useless. Yes I've watched guides, I still don't understand the point of those two abilities, they just don't make sense to me at all. They're not even on my bars since EW forced me to make more space.

Those seem to be the major reasons for my lower parses. Beyond that, some weaving mistakes. Probaly a few instances I got disrupted from my rotation for one reason or another.

Also it's knocking off points for me using LB3. The logs are severely knocking my performance down for a few issues that didn't affect how well I actually performed in the fight overall. I really just don't care. A few rotational issues aside, I didn't die, didn't fail any mechanics, and the boss died quickly. I don't have the energy to care about anything beyond that. I just don't care. I've never cared so little about anything in my entire life.

Yeah, the first sentence tells me what the problem is. You need to understand the point of them.