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    Mezzoforte's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    Yes and this is stretching the definition of a third-party tool to the absolute maximum wherein it becomes logical fallacy. Discord facilitates communication. The fights in this game at anything beyond normal mode aren't really designed around the idea that you're using a party chat to communicate your ideas. A little critical thinking goes a long way as to tell you why these aren't even remotely comparable.

    By their own admission:
    - Modifying, analyzing, integrating, and/or reverse-engineering game software or data.
    - Creating, distributing, using, or promoting utilities that interact with the game.

    The 'how' of how that data is collected and analysed is what determines if it violates the terms of service or not. They aren't doing it on the basis of end-result but rather method. Given that neither discord, nor Excel, nor a physical calculator violate either of the following then it's really a no brainer. As they've stated they frankly don't care if you do or don't. Neither do I. They'll be punishing people for bad behaviour long before they even bother punishing you for the use of ACT. They also went on to state that if this ever changed then you accept the personal responsibility of getting sanctioned due to it.
    You are wrong watch yoshi p latest video about third party programs. He said if they were to ban act they would also need to ban discord.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mezzoforte View Post
    You are wrong watch yoshi p latest video about third party programs. He said if they were to ban act they would also need to ban discord.
    Unless I'm missing some video here and something was posted between the video 5 months ago and today then no.

    It was stated that he doesn't know what is installed on your personal PC and that is your own private information and there is very little meaning or purpose in finding out (given that it is illegal to do so), as taking the approach of banning all third-party tools would start a futile reporting war. This just turns into a massive whataboutism. What about this tool? What about that tool? Yes that would include Discord, and even a modified mouse or keyboard, but by their own admission none of these tools rewrite data or input anything into the game so the distinction between what tools they condone and which break the game. It's a completely complex grey area for them.

    This is the whole point of why they ban you for harassment long before they ban you for third party tools, and why they take very little action on third party tools in the first place.
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    Last edited by Kaurhz; 12-31-2021 at 10:06 PM.