can we have 2nd raise ability via item ?

[Molly_Millions]

about ifrit deaths: They should probably do something about the serious lag that occurs in the arena then. I get a send time of 7 in there about 50% of the time when everywhere else on the server it's almost 10X that.

So yeah, ideally not many raises are needed, but shit happens and they end up being needed anyway. If a situation calls for more raises, somebody is gonna switch to a class to get access to more raises. Same goes for other abilities that you don't have access to on jobs. That's gonna be the the way of things, like it or not.

[Krausus]

about ifrit deaths: They should probably do something about the serious lag that occurs in the arena then. I get a send time of 7 in there about 50% of the time when everywhere else on the server it's almost 10X that.

So yeah, ideally not many raises are needed, but shit happens and they end up being needed anyway. If a situation calls for more raises, somebody is gonna switch to a class to get access to more raises. Same goes for other abilities that you don't have access to on jobs. That's gonna be the the way of things, like it or not.

really with a typical party set up of 1 tank 2 healer and what will be the norm of at least 1 bard you are looking at 6 raises, 2 less then what we currently have. with the tank being able to heal better and whm being able to heal better raise will probably be needed less, so things will probably be fine.

[syntaxlies]

with jobs you can expect half the party to be able to raise 2 cnj, 1 glad, and 1 bard. maybe more depending on setup.

[Molly_Millions]

really with a typical party set up of 1 tank 2 healer and what will be the norm of at least 1 bard you are looking at 6 raises, 2 less then what we currently have. with the tank being able to heal better and whm being able to heal better raise will probably be needed less, so things will probably be fine.

I agree, we'll probably be fine. But, I'm a cynic at heart and like to play devil's advocate. I'm just saying that there could be some legitimate scenarios that could call for classes in a pt over jobs.

[syntaxlies]

I agree, we'll probably be fine. But, I'm a cynic at heart and like to play devil's advocate. I'm just saying that there could be some legitimate scenarios that could call for classes in a pt over jobs.

or would people just use more bards

[Krausus]

I agree, we'll probably be fine. But, I'm a cynic at heart and like to play devil's advocate. I'm just saying that there could be some legitimate scenarios that could call for classes in a pt over jobs.

I think this is dependent on the person playing the job/class.

[Akujin]

Incase no one remembers this, I thought I'd share.

•Recovery items will no longer be usable on other characters.

Taken from http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/31779

Revamping medicine and food thread

Basically, they're trying to get away from everyone being self sufficent. There are jobs, those jobs have roles to fulfill. You arent forced to participate in any function as a job, but being one will offer better benefits. It also makes everyone more accountable for their own actions. People cry for more challange, so thats what they've delivered. More challange. Either deal with it, or move on to something else.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

Well, i don't think someone ever cried on ffxi not be able to raise. I mean, a warrior/ninja should't expect to raise people
or a rogue in wow
or an archer in tera
or a non-caster in *insert game*
You choose a class to fullfil a role, why you should play like another role? That exactly why we screamed on jobs and more specializations, and not to raise everyone with every class

[Conradus]

Incase no one remembers this, I thought I'd share.

•Recovery items will no longer be usable on other characters.

Taken from http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/31779

Revamping medicine and food thread

Basically, they're trying to get away from everyone being self sufficent. There are jobs, those jobs have roles to fulfill. You arent forced to participate in any function as a job, but being one will offer better benefits. It also makes everyone more accountable for their own actions. People cry for more challange, so thats what they've delivered. More challange. Either deal with it, or move on to something else.

We'll have to see what happens, then. To conform with this principle, they'll need to remove Company-issued expectorant/tonic altogether, since you *can't* use it on yourself.

[Akujin]

We'll have to see what happens, then. To conform with this principle, they'll need to remove Company-issued expectorant/tonic altogether, since you *can't* use it on yourself.

Yeah, I've noticed that. I've only used the items once, just because I cant bother myself to wander all the way back to my GC everytime to buy another one. lol