Request for Utsusemi

[Xoo]

That other tank wasn't an option for 90% of content. Why couldn't the two types of tanks be equal, or at least as close to equal as possible, in all content?

Blood tanking or evasion tanking. The situation/enemy decided.

Do you know why? It was because nobody wanted to level a Paladin, because nobody in exp parties cared to have a Paladin tank. Everyone wanted a Ninja, and it was directly reflected in the end-game population of tanks.

Possibly nobody wanted to level Paladin, and equally as possible that many had already done so.

No, /NIN negated the other subs because Utsusemi was so far above the other abilities that other subs provided, that you would be f**king stupid not to take it. It gave you no-brainer, easy-mode defenses for tanks and exponentially higher damage for DPS classes. There was no other sub that you could use, because they were all s**t by comparison.

Was Paladin not even easier to tank with? Flash > Provoke? Sounds pretty technical!

[Wolfie]

Blood tanking or evasion tanking. The situation/enemy decided.

90% of content was placed into easy-mode with an evasion tank and medium/hard mode with a blood tank, 10% vice versa. Come on man, use your brain for once.

Possibly nobody wanted to level Paladin, and equally as possible that many had already done so.

Are you serious?

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/2.html

Ninja 5.43%, Paladin 3.83%.

Don't come up with bulls**t 50-50 statistics and false dichotomies.

Was Paladin not even easier to tank with? Flash > Provoke? Sounds pretty technical!

Irrelevant, what decided the importance of a tank in FFXI was how much damage they took over time. NIN beat the crap out of PLD for practically everything except some really serious HNMs.

[Firon]

90% of content was placed into easy-mode with an evasion tank and medium/hard mode with a blood tank, 10% vice versa. Come on man, use your brain for once.



Are you serious?

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/2.html

Ninja 5.43%, Paladin 3.83%.

Don't come up with bulls**t 50-50 statistics and false dichotomies.




Irrelevant, what decided the importance of a tank in FFXI was how much damage they took over time. NIN beat the crap out of PLD for practically everything except some really serious HNMs.

When was the last time you played XI before lvl cap raise for real NIN was not tanking Cerb Khimera or any of the SEA bosses idk what game you was playing but it certainly wasn't XI.

[Wolfie]

When was the last time you played XI before lvl cap raise for real NIN was not tanking Cerb Khimera or any of the SEA bosses idk what game you was playing but it certainly wasn't XI.

No, I never claimed that NIN was tanking the hardest hitting HNMs of the bunch. Those were indeed reserved for PLD/WAR, PLD/NIN and the rare PLD/DRK.

But NIN was tanking everything else, AND the exp parties that led up to end-game. You really need to get rid of this poor habit of not actually reading what I say and claiming that I said things I never did.

[Xoo]

90% of content was placed into easy-mode with an evasion tank and medium/hard mode with a blood tank, 10% vice versa. Come on man, use your brain for once.

You mean 90% of mobs didn't use AoE abilities/magic that either wiped or negated shadows? Is it the job or the mob? I don't have to use my brain on these forums.

Are you serious?

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/gui...nsus/10/2.html

Ninja 5.43%, Paladin 3.83%.

Don't come up with bulls**t 50-50 statistics and false dichotomies.

I see that BLM is at the top of this list. Guess I missed the part where Dark Seal was THE SHIT for tanking, etc.

Irrelevant, what decided the importance of a tank in FFXI was how much damage they took over time. NIN beat the crap out of PLD for practically everything except some really serious HNMs.

Again, the job or the mob?

[Wolfie]

You mean 90% of mobs didn't use AoE abilities/magic that either wiped or negated shadows? Is it the job or the mob? I don't have to use my brain on these forums.

Yeah, mobs used skills that wiped shadows. It didn't matter, because the NIN could get his secondary Utsusemi skill back up before the mob resumed standard auto-attacks, and nothing serious happened.

I see that BLM is at the top of this list. Guess I missed the part where Dark Seal was THE SHIT for tanking, etc.

Please don't tell me you're being serious with this line, because if you are, I'm going to go on a f**king rampage. You can't possibly believe that this is a logical, reasonable response to anything.

Again, the job or the mob?

This is more relevant in a sense, because now you're getting closer to the root of the issue. The majority of fights in FFXI favored NIN tanks, both because of monster attack mechanics and NIN defense mechanics. Just because a few fights favored PLD tanks does not mean that the two were on equal grounds.