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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    Lack of consistency will always be a problem with FFXIV, you can tell they had an idea and they flipped to another one. As I said before, the more you think about everything the less sense it makes. It's like how inconsistent tempering was, during ARR it happens if the primal was around, yet during HW Cid pilot the airship during the whale thingy. Later on during SB it worked differently and we can shield others from it.

    Oh, and that last bit, what I understood is that said primals were in reality just regular concepts of creation magic. Witch make the whole Ancient temper from Zodriak even more silly, like why would the ancients temper themselves?

    Edit: I just forgot to mention: both twins not getting temper when metting with their grandpa during Bahamut coil raid series. Not to mention primals tempering primals... ouch.
    The reason is probably the Primal´s aether ammount. Prime Zodiark had such ammount not even the Ancients could ward against it, meanwhile the rest of primals are tiny specks of aether in comparison thus easy to ward against, for beings of huge power like the Ancients aka having the Blessing of Light

    When we face Zodiark not only is faction of his power, but also Fandaniel wants to crush us not tempering anyways, and when Luisoix was tempered was after he reliquished all the power he gathered, so his aether was overwritten with Bahamut's imprinting

    Think on aether as water, if your own is a river, someone pouring a cube of different water wont change anything, but usually primals for normal people are akin to having a small stream being overwritten by a water inundation.

    Seems Venat aether protection spell does not only affect the wearer but also an small area around them, thats why they can "shield" others from primals tempering
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bhearil View Post
    The reason is probably the Primal´s aether ammount. Prime Zodiark had such ammount not even the Ancients could ward against it, meanwhile the rest of primals are tiny specks of aether in comparison thus easy to ward against, for beings of huge power like the Ancients aka having the Blessing of Light

    When we face Zodiark not only is faction of his power, but also Fandaniel wants to crush us not tempering anyways, and when Luisoix was tempered was after he reliquished all the power he gathered, so his aether was overwritten with Bahamut's imprinting

    Think on aether as water, if your own is a river, someone pouring a cube of different water wont change anything, but usually primals for normal people are akin to having a small stream being overwritten by a water inundation.

    Seems Venat aether protection spell does not only affect the wearer but also an small area around them, thats why they can "shield" others from primals tempering
    EW mentioned that Ascians gave a "faulty" summoning spell to other races that incorporated tempering (to keep the process going), so they knew how to summon without tempering. Before EW I was of your opinion, know I just think devs wanted to go to X before EW and then switched to Y.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Driavna View Post
    EW mentioned that Ascians gave a "faulty" summoning spell to other races that incorporated tempering (to keep the process going), so they knew how to summon without tempering. Before EW I was of your opinion, know I just think devs wanted to go to X before EW and then switched to Y.
    Yeah that became obvious at the end of Stormblood when we got redirected from the war with the Empire to go on a massive sidequest. Then they mentioned recently that they didn't have a plan and it all made sense. They don't have a narrative destination, they are just writing whatever as they go. Endwalker and its weird obsession with closing so many plot threads made that abundantly clear. It comes across as trying to finish off what was started before so they can do their own thing now. We'll see how that ends up but right now I am not exactly optimistic.

    That being said, right now XIV is the golden child of MMO's so there won't be many people calling them on it. And even here, at what I consider to be the worst in so far as narrative and writing goes, its better than any other MMO story on the market.
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