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  1. #91
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    GalaxyEyes's Avatar
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    Galaxy Eyes
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    Behemoth
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    Paladin Lv 96
    Quote Originally Posted by Lau298 View Post
    fine then, bring all tanks on the same dmg lvl, but let's remove pld's ability to be ranged and bring it's mitigation tools on par with drk.
    remove every single dps skill and leave only unmend for drk, shield lob for pld, tomahawk for war and lighting shot for gnb. Equals the potency and the aggro generation. Boom, there is your balance.
    :jokes:
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  2. #92
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    Laurence Ironraven
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    mmmh sorry but war is se's beloved, cannot do that.
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  3. #93
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    Laurence Ironraven
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    Zodiark
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    but the ranged attacks are too unique, just give the tanks a glock and let's be done with it.
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  4. #94
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    Mekhana's Avatar
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    Character
    Mekhana Souther
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    The problem is in a game centered around DPS, nothing else matters. PLD is popular now because it's the new expansion's poster boy. Come Savage, it'll entirely drop off without some buffs. It simply cannot compete with the other tanks in a damage centric meta. It's why Warrior's insane self-sustain wasn't viewed as highly in ShB. If it doesn't result in more DPS opportunity for the healers, it may as well not exist.

    Don't get me wrong. PLD should be the weakest tank because of it's flexibility in terms of downtime and utility, just not by this much. Frankly, I think they could shave off a very small amount from DRK, slap it on PLD and call it a day.
    I sympathize but the same happens to us too. You shave a bit off our damage (even though GNB still has highest besides two or three drks that might have found a boss cheese or live inside the server building) and we shave a bit of your surv and self sustain.
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  5. #95
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    Azira Syuren
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    Balmung
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    Gunbreaker Lv 90
    Honestly, PLD's weakness compared to the other tanks feels, quite frankly, unintended. This big of a gap between highest and lowest wasn't present in ShB and I see no reason to believe they'd intentionally make a wider gap in output. PLD should be even higher than it is in ex2 considering that your big damage skill is an AoE and doesn't have a drop off, but even the top 300 parses (some of which should be mega-padded, given you can potentially hit at least 3 targets with confetior) don't have a single paladin in them.
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  6. #96
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GalaxyEyes View Post
    thats why im casual. this whole talk is nonsense.

    Make a Full party with 2 paladins and everyone will be able to clear BLEEP and BLEEP today.
    Unless every tank has the EXACTLY same damage output this whole debate will still be happening and no one will be happy.

    Still waiting for the day when the the whole fault of the wipe on a dps check will be the tank that doesnt do dmg, even doing his rotation as optimal as it can be, using all BiS the game has to offer.

    A tip for all of you, just uninstall that [Third Party DPS Metter].
    SPOILERS please. Damn bro.
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  7. #97
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    Navaro Reverz
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    Louisoix
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    Warrior Lv 90
    I don't understand WHY people have to mention specific boss names when talking about dps ON TANKS, in a game where most people play it for its story..

    STOP THE F ING SPOILERS MAN. YOU SIT THERE AND ACTUALLY TYPE THE NAMES OUT AND WHILE TYPING DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WHAT YUO ARE DOING BEFORE YOU POST IT, JESUS...
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  8. #98
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    jadeblade's Avatar
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    Arthur Wolfe
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    Gilgamesh
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Navnav View Post
    I don't understand WHY people have to mention specific boss names when talking about dps ON TANKS, in a game where most people play it for its story..

    STOP THE F ING SPOILERS MAN. YOU SIT THERE AND ACTUALLY TYPE THE NAMES OUT AND WHILE TYPING DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT WHAT YUO ARE DOING BEFORE YOU POST IT, JESUS...
    Yup people should know better, they should say trial one or two.
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  9. #99
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    Hammerhorn Oathsworn
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    Excalibur
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by AziraSyuren View Post
    Honestly, PLD's weakness compared to the other tanks feels, quite frankly, unintended.
    I hope your right. I do remember that they did say they were adjusting psychical and magic damage amounts to be in line with each other because of some old code in the past they were not calculated the same. Combined with the stat squish that happened this might explain everything.
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  10. #100
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    Galaxy Eyes
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    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 96
    change bloodweapon to be stacked buff.
    remove mp cost from TBN and make it 25 seconds CD.
    remove abyssal drain or buff its healing and reduce its CD.
    remove shadownbringer and buff flood of shadow.
    add an option to make my simulacrumm invisible*.
    remove Dark mind or make it mitigate any kind of dmg.
    remove oblation or give 2 stacks for reprisal
    remove salt and 'whatever' and give a normal dot on monsters. or fking increase the radius to be like AST star
    let me combo AOE below lvl 72
    let me Buff AoE below lvl 72
    give 3 stacks on plunge and remove that stupid trait lv84
    remove all spells or make they weaponskills.**
    rework living dead. holy fk what a stupid ivuln. Who had this idea?? i wanna invite him/her to a freefall on elpis without parachute.

    So in trade for all these bs stuff that DRK never get fixed he is the highest DPS??? I prefer former:, get him to be the lowest dps tank and fix this stupid skilltree he has.
    *i always think theres a player hiting the mob mindlessly, but no its just the shadow. same with automaton queen.
    **do i meld spellspeed or skillspeed?
    i could do the same to PLD too. but his list would be waaaaay smaller than DRK's.
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    Last edited by GalaxyEyes; 12-20-2021 at 12:35 AM.

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