Paladin weakest Tank now

[ForteNightshade]

You dudes can't have your cake and eat it too. The only thing DRK got was dps and at the very last minute from the look of things judging by the tooltip info/leaks. You got a fancy rework, a ton more surv and fun beyond your opener/burst.

DPS comes and go with every patch. 50 potency here or there and its poof. Very little can be taken what was given to PLD.

The problem is in a game centered around DPS, nothing else matters. PLD is popular now because it's the new expansion's poster boy. Come Savage, it'll entirely drop off without some buffs. It simply cannot compete with the other tanks in a damage centric meta. It's why Warrior's insane self-sustain wasn't viewed as highly in ShB. If it doesn't result in more DPS opportunity for the healers, it may as well not exist.

Don't get me wrong. PLD should be the weakest tank because of it's flexibility in terms of downtime and utility, just not by this much. Frankly, I think they could shave off a very small amount from DRK, slap it on PLD and call it a day.

[Mekhana]

The problem is in a game centered around DPS, nothing else matters. PLD is popular now because it's the new expansion's poster boy. Come Savage, it'll entirely drop off without some buffs. It simply cannot compete with the other tanks in a damage centric meta. It's why Warrior's insane self-sustain wasn't viewed as highly in ShB. If it doesn't result in more DPS opportunity for the healers, it may as well not exist.

Don't get me wrong. PLD should be the weakest tank because of it's flexibility in terms of downtime and utility, just not by this much. Frankly, I think they could shave off a very small amount from DRK, slap it on PLD and call it a day.

I sympathize but the same happens to us too. You shave a bit off our damage (even though GNB still has highest besides two or three drks that might have found a boss cheese or live inside the server building) and we shave a bit of your surv and self sustain.

[ForteNightshade]

I sympathize but the same happens to us too. You shave a bit off our damage (even though GNB still has highest besides two or three drks that might have found a boss cheese or live inside the server building) and we shave a bit of your surv and self sustain.

Not recently. While DRK wasn't meta in Shadowbringers, it curved out a sizable niche throughout the expansion; usually hovering at 20% or higher. It even beat out PLD in Eden's Promise speed runs. Warrior, on the other hand, was essentially dead.

Shaving off a little of DRK's damage—i.e. 50-75 rDPS—would still keep it top tier in damage but just not render PLD obsolete. Even if you wanted to axe some of their mitigation, which I don't think is even necessary as Warrior is way stronger in that regard, you'd hardly see much complaint. Like I said, this game is primarily about damage. A good utility job with low DPS often dies. For all the love WAR is getting right now, if those massive heals don't lead to extra healer GCDs then nobody will care—especially not when Inner Chaos and Inner Release conflict with crit buffs.