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    It is a paid product.
    ... that people like me are paying for and not getting, while I get to see others who did get on and do all their stuff hogging the queues and refusing to get off and let others through.

    It's frustrating and I'm tired of it.

    And yes, yes, I know, they handed out free time, but you know what? The people who got the MSQ done who are hogging the queues also got the free time even though they're no-lifing it and being on all day long. So that doesn't change anything.

    Now, if Yoshi-P were to hand out an additional week, 2 weeks, etc to the people who don't have EW MSQ done (who have ShB done), then that would be different. But no, he gave it to everybody which still doesn't give us any compensation beyond what he gave to everybody. It's still unfair that people like me still can't get on while we watch everybody else having fun at max level and we can't get on enough to even get TO there.

    I wish I could be like you, just get on in the morning and do dailies, but guess what?

    Because of people hogging the queues, I can't even get TO max level and/or getting MSQ done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    ... that people like me are paying for and not getting, while I get to see others who did get on and do all their stuff hogging the queues and refusing to get off and let others through.

    It's frustrating and I'm tired of it.

    And yes, yes, I know, they handed out free time, but you know what? The people who got the MSQ done who are hogging the queues also got the free time even though they're no-lifing it and being on all day long. So that doesn't change anything.

    Now, if Yoshi-P were to hand out an additional week, 2 weeks, etc to the people who don't have EW MSQ done (who have ShB done), then that would be different. But no, he gave it to everybody which still doesn't give us any compensation beyond what he gave to everybody. It's still unfair that people like me still can't get on while we watch everybody else having fun at max level and we can't get on enough to even get TO there.
    I'm sorry you are frustrated, but it is still no excuse to penalize OTHER players. If someone wants to be considerate to others and log out so someone else can take their turn, like I have been doing, that is up to them. In no way should that be forced. That is draconian.

    Emotions run high when frustration is abound during all of this, I and I think everyone else gets that. But this isn't the first time I've seen this suggestion about capping play times, assigning play times, using some artificial gate as a means to decide who gets to play or not. I'm sorry but it isn't right. I will never change my opinion on that, and I would never FORCE someone else to log out under any such conditions. If SE goes that route, all they do is trade one group's frustration for another, and possibly alienate even MORE of their customer base with such a bad practice.

    SE are taking steps. It is slowly improving. All they and anyone else can ask for is patience while they further attempt to make the situation better. Already they have given out 21 free days of playtime which is astonishing in of itself. They've admitted fault on the 2002 errors. Give it another week or two now that sales have ceased, and the queues will start to decrease.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    I'm sorry you are frustrated, but it is still no excuse to penalize OTHER players. If someone wants to be considerate to others and log out so someone else can take their turn, like I have been doing, that is up to them. In no way should that be forced. That is draconian.

    Emotions run high when frustration is abound during all of this, I and I think everyone else gets that. But this isn't the first time I've seen this suggestion about capping play times, assigning play times, using some artificial gate as a means to decide who gets to play or not. I'm sorry but it isn't right. I will never change my opinion on that, and I would never FORCE someone else to log out under any such conditions. If SE goes that route, all they do is trade one group's frustration for another, and possibly alienate even MORE of their customer base with such a bad practice.

    SE are taking steps. It is slowly improving. All they and anyone else can ask for is patience while they further attempt to make the situation better. Already they have given out 21 free days of playtime which is astonishing in of itself. They've admitted fault on the 2002 errors. Give it another week or two now that sales have ceased, and the queues will start to decrease.
    Yeah, that's easy for you to say.

    You're at the end, you're max level, you don't have to worry about spoilers, you don't have to avoid the XIV community and its content creators like the plague, and you get to work on your endgame gear.

    It's easy for you to look down at the people who can't get much of any progress in MSQ and say "It'll be okay it'll get better in the coming weeks".

    Easy for you to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    Yeah, that's easy for you to say.

    You're at the end, you're max level, you don't have to worry about spoilers, you don't have to avoid the XIV community and its content creators like the plague, and you get to work on your endgame gear.

    It's easy for you to look down at the people who can't get much of any progress in MSQ and say "It'll be okay it'll get better in the coming weeks".

    Easy for you to say.
    So again, because I planned ahead with my real life affairs, took my time off accordingly to be able to deal with the anticipated high traffic and log in server issues, people like me should be punished because other's didn't?

    All any of us can tell you is sorry. That we know the situation sucks. Some of us ARE being considerate in logging out of our own choice.

    It doesn't change the fact that to cap one player because they've finished some kind of milestone while not capping another is wrong. It is not the game's fault that someone can't play during peak times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ArkenaeuxBelmont View Post
    So again, because I planned ahead with my real life affairs, took my time off accordingly to be able to deal with the anticipated high traffic and log in server issues, people like me should be punished because other's didn't?

    All any of us can tell you is sorry. That we know the situation sucks. Some of us ARE being considerate in logging out of our own choice.

    It doesn't change the fact that to cap one player because they've finished some kind of milestone while not capping another is wrong. It is not the game's fault that someone can't play during peak times.
    You keep using that word... "punished".

    It's more that you're being asked to "pass your turn" and if you specifically only log on to the mornings than none of this even applies to you so I dunno WTF you're arguing about.

    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.


    I had vacation, it had to be used before the end of the year or I lost it.

    Bummer you had none or couldn't but don't fall victim to your own claim of bias.

    However now I'm done with the story and playing the other content in the expansion.. .you on the other hand are suggesting randoms on the internet be rationed so that you can play the game.

    Who here is managing their own time to maximize their enjoyment.. and who is asking others to sacrifice so that they get to play a "fricken" video game?
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You keep using that word... "punished".

    It's more that you're being asked to "pass your turn" and if you specifically only log on to the mornings than none of this even applies to you so I dunno WTF you're arguing about.

    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.
    Yes, if you force it, then it is punishing a person.

    People who took time off to play were willing to do what is needed in order to play when they wanted to play. If video games are not so important, then no reason to force people that have gotten to play to the end of the line.
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    I start to lost empathy when people try to help each other and get hostile over it.
    It's not my fault any of this happened, it's not anyones fault.
    They're implementing a fix Tuesday for the 2002 disconnects.

    I don't want to be mean or rude, but you guys really need to relax.
    At the end of the day, it's just a video game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.
    Neither is getting worked up like this over a game either.
    Just try to be patient, it'll work out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You keep using that word... "punished".

    It's more that you're being asked to "pass your turn" and if you specifically only log on to the mornings than none of this even applies to you so I dunno WTF you're arguing about.

    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.
    Oh that is it, someone is sorry for your frustration, and has a different opinion you're going to try the tactic of insulting them and spending an exhausting amount of effort in this thread trying to be right? We get you, loud and clear. However your idea is not the popular opinion and won't be no matter how right you think you are. That energy could be better spent IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Maeka View Post
    You keep using that word... "punished".

    It's more that you're being asked to "pass your turn" and if you specifically only log on to the mornings than none of this even applies to you so I dunno WTF you're arguing about.

    And to be honest, anybody who takes off work or school for a fricken video game is just ridiculous. I'm sorry, but no video game is important enough for that.
    How I choose to use my PTO from work isn't really any of your business? How, and it what world, do you have any right to tell anyone else what is and isn't important enough to them personally to use their given time off for?

    I'm arguing the side and viewpoint that it isn't right to punish a group of players in-game with an arbitrary cap just because they've completed MSQ. Even if I only play a few hours in the morning now to do my dailies and then log out, and it wouldn't effect me at all, to me it is something I disagree with and am opposed to. Are you saying people aren't allowed to have an opinion now too?
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