Response to Congestion (as of Dec. 15)

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

It's about taking turns.

You logging in for however much time, 10+ hours a week, vs that guy who wants to log in, but can't due to RL obligations and not being able to wait hours for queues who only gets 2 hours a week.

You got your money's worth, they didn't.

You should stand aside so that they can get their money's worth.

Why should one guy pay $14.95 to only be able to play a couple hours a week because of the nolifers who play 40+ hours a week who can log on wee morning and stay logged on all fricken day?

Again, how is that the person who's logging more hours' fault? What are they doing that is wrong? If it's legit playtime and not breaking ToS by AFK botting or anything else, that is THEIR right.

You have absolutely 0 right to say 1 person's playtime is any more important than someone else's. If one has the time to play, then one has the time to play.

We all paid the same price for the game, we all pay the same subscription fee. Person A who can't log in during non-peak times and doesn't have the time to play is no more a different customer than Person B who can log in before the queues and has beaten MSQ.

I'm sorry that the situation for the people who do not have the time to play, sucks. It does. However, that does not mean OTHER players should be punished for that when they have not done anything wrong. They played the game. That's all. (Of course, again, considering there is no ToS breaking going on. AFK-botters and RMT'ers are exempt from this. They SHOULD be dealt with.)

[Theodric]

Thankfully it isn't up to members of the community to enforce how much or how little someone chooses to invest in the game on any given day. Nor is anyone obligated to give up their space in favour of somebody else.

It's not like it's feasible to even enforce such a thing, nor is anyone even privy to the individual circumstances of the players in question. For example, for all we know some of the players who are playing a lot could be doing so because they broke a leg in an accident and can't really do much else.

[xenahawk]

i do appreciate the communication even if they dont have much in the way of new news for servers because of manufacturing delays but i am thrilled they confirmed and found the bug for the 2002 error and plan to launch a fix next week. thats been the most frustrating thing about the queu not that there is a wait but that it would randomly disconnect you so if you arent watching it you or you keep getting errors when trying to log back in your back at the end meaning however long you wait before was for nothing. i am hopeful that their fix will work so we can at least queu up and do some chores or whatever with out fear of getting bumped. and though the game time doesnt fix having to wait to play its quite nice that they do that especially for those on more of a tight budget.

[Jybril]

So people who are using scripts to stay logged in are not against the ToS?
I'm a little confused now.

[Maeka]

Again, how is that the person who's logging more hours' fault? What are they doing that is wrong? If it's legit playtime and not breaking ToS by AFK botting or anything else, that is THEIR right.

You have absolutely 0 right to say 1 person's playtime is any more important than someone else's. If one has the time to play, then one has the time to play.

We all paid the same price for the game, we all pay the same subscription fee. Person A who can't log in during non-peak times and doesn't have the time to play is no more a different customer than Person B who can log in before the queues and has beaten MSQ.

I'm sorry that the situation for the people who do not have the time to play, sucks. It does. However, that does not mean OTHER players should be punished for that when they have not done anything wrong. They played the game. That's all. (Of course, again, considering there is no ToS breaking going on. AFK-botters and RMT'ers are exempt from this. They SHOULD be dealt with.)

Is it so much to ask that you be considerate and voluntarily let other people get their turn online?

Is it so much to ask that you think for a second about someone other than yourself?

No, you're another one of those "mememememememememe" and "who cares about everybody else, I want what I want!" sentiment that you see everywhere.

Maybe you should start being a part of the solution instead of being a part of the problem. Maybe you should realize that people want to get MSQ done. Maybe if you, and everybody like you would voluntarily step away from the game for a few days to let others get on and finish their MSQs, things would be way better. It's hard to even go to Youtube anymore without seeing spoiler videos and I would LIKE to finish MSQ as little spoiled as possible, but yanno...

I can't fricken log on, like, at all except for one or two days a week. That's IF I don't get called in to work.

But I see all of these people hogging the queues that already have MSQ done, they don't have to worry about being spoiled, they don't have to basically stop talking to their friends and ignore their FC discords, etc to avoid spoilers.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

So people who are using scripts to stay logged in are not against the ToS?
I'm a little confused now.

I specifically stated AFK botters should be dealt with. I'm not siding with anything that would break ToS. Anyone who is using a bot/macro to remain logged in and avoid the AFK timers should be handled and removed, in my opinion.

I am referring to players who are actually dedicating their hours to real play.

[ArkenaeuxBelmont]

Is it so much to ask that you be considerate and voluntarily let other people get their turn online?

Is it so much to ask that you think for a second about someone other than yourself?

No, you're another one of those "mememememememememe" and "who cares about everybody else, I want what I want!" sentiment that you see everywhere.

Maybe you should start being a part of the solution instead of being a part of the problem. Maybe you should realize that people want to get MSQ done. Maybe if you, and everybody like you would voluntarily step away from the game for a few days to let others get on and finish their MSQs, things would be way better. It's hard to even go to Youtube anymore without seeing spoiler videos and I would LIKE to finish MSQ as little spoiled as possible, but yanno...

I can't fricken log on, like, at all except for one or two days a week. That's IF I don't get called in to work.

But I see all of these people hogging the queues that already have MSQ done, they don't have to worry about being spoiled, they don't have to basically stop talking to their friends and ignore their FC discords, etc to avoid spoilers.

Except *I* have been, because it's been MY choice.

I log off after I get my few hours and dailies done in the morning. I don't partake of the game during night hours unless for some reason I couldn't play during the morning.

But the important thing about that is IT IS MY CHOICE TO DO SO. No one forced me.

No one has any right to tell someone else their play time is capped because of some arbitary gate such as completing MSQ. That is up to each individual person who to spend their playtime.

One person's sub is no more valid than another person's sub. You have no right to tell someone else that they can or cannot play, if they are not violating the ToS. To suggest otherwise is childish. It is a paid product.

[Nothv13]

Is it so much to ask that you be considerate and voluntarily let other people get their turn online?

Is it so much to ask that you think for a second about someone other than yourself?

No, you're another one of those "mememememememememe" and "who cares about everybody else, I want what I want!" sentiment that you see everywhere.

Maybe you should start being a part of the solution instead of being a part of the problem. Maybe you should realize that people want to get MSQ done. Maybe if you, and everybody like you would voluntarily step away from the game for a few days to let others get on and finish their MSQs, things would be way better. It's hard to even go to Youtube anymore without seeing spoiler videos and I would LIKE to finish MSQ as little spoiled as possible, but yanno...

I can't fricken log on, like, at all except for one or two days a week. That's IF I don't get called in to work.

But I see all of these people hogging the queues that already have MSQ done, they don't have to worry about being spoiled, they don't have to basically stop talking to their friends and ignore their FC discords, etc to avoid spoilers.

What you want though is not voluntary, it is forced. If people decide to not play because they don't need to and allow others in then so be it. the moment you want to force it however, is the moment you get push back and you yourself look selfish.

[Jybril]

I specifically stated AFK botters should be dealt with. I'm not siding with anything that would break ToS. Anyone who is using a bot/macro to remain logged in and avoid the AFK timers should be handled and removed, in my opinion.

I am referring to players who are actually dedicating their hours to real play.

Oops, missread! My bad!

[Maeka]

It is a paid product.

... that people like me are paying for and not getting, while I get to see others who did get on and do all their stuff hogging the queues and refusing to get off and let others through.

It's frustrating and I'm tired of it.

And yes, yes, I know, they handed out free time, but you know what? The people who got the MSQ done who are hogging the queues also got the free time even though they're no-lifing it and being on all day long. So that doesn't change anything.

Now, if Yoshi-P were to hand out an additional week, 2 weeks, etc to the people who don't have EW MSQ done (who have ShB done), then that would be different. But no, he gave it to everybody which still doesn't give us any compensation beyond what he gave to everybody. It's still unfair that people like me still can't get on while we watch everybody else having fun at max level and we can't get on enough to even get TO there.

I wish I could be like you, just get on in the morning and do dailies, but guess what?

Because of people hogging the queues, I can't even get TO max level and/or getting MSQ done.