Content Finder

[Firon]

Yea I doubt it will work that way, I imagine they will keep it as roles so it makes it fair across the board.

It will probably mean less stacking of specific jobs, of course people can switch jobs once they are in the instance after some discussion.

Its not like what we had previously either.

You click a button > click the role you want to play > everyone gets put in a queue > server matches up 1 tank, 5 DD and 2 healers > enter dungeon.

This is what we have now Se could make the best content finder if they tweaked this one right.

Even tho this pic sucks you can set what area you want to be in but not the content, but you can set how many of what class you want in the pic i have 1 Gla 2 cnj and 1 pgl and 3 thm's.

[indira]

no one want to do anything anyways but complain about stuff, when you ask "lets do this" they say there busy dont, feel like it.

i doubt a finder will help no uses the search and no one answers to /sh or /t in town, they just want to sit there and do nothing.

[Firon]

Most likely they would not let you do that because of class discrimination and class stacking which they wouldn't want. The goal is to get everyone though the queue fast.

I'm sure that would just make peeps stop using the finder when they could shout for the classes they want.

[Jinko]

This is what we have now Se could make the best content finder if they tweaked this one right.

Even tho this pic sucks you can set what area you want to be in but not the content, but you can set how many of what class you want in the pic i have 1 Gla 2 cnj and 1 pgl and 3 thm's.

Yea that thing is a convoluted mess tbh, there is no reason to enter in what you are looking for or what levels as the content will define it most of the time.

[Lior]

That doesn't fly with me. If I bought a game and paying for it I should be able to play it right? I don't get what people like you have agaisnt other people seeing and doing the content a game has to offer? Basically if I am paying for a game I want to play it. Having the game find people to play with isn't making it easy. The difficulty of a game should not be finding people to play with that is just silly. The difficult part should be killing fighting mob in dungeons and killing bosses.

This isn't 10 years ago queue systems and matchmaking are what is expecting in current gen games.

If "playing" for you is getting into a dungeon and killing bosses, why aren't you playing a game that caters to your specific playstyle? There are scores of them out there. The reason why there isn't a "WoW killer" is because there isn't a need for one. The people that want to play WoW will play WoW. A few will want to play WoW with a different skin. Everyone else? An untapped market which is only growing as more people wake up to the fact that WoW's method might not have been the best one after all. FFXIV doesn't need to emulate WoW, nor should it, because it isn't going to be able to compete in Blizzard's own game.

[Zumi]

I'm sure that would just make peeps stop using the finder when they could shout for the classes they want.

No, people would use it because the game would automatically match you up with people in like a couple min as opposed staying in 1 town shouting for people for like an hour to do the same thing the cross server finder could do in a min or two.

[Choyi]

Yes but GW2 is a proper open world MMO with content you can join at a click of a button.

Just like in Rift you run up to a group fighting a Rift and you can join the party at a click of a button, public quests are the future of MMO's.

Some of those huge Dragon bosses in GW2 look frikkin amazing, you just turn up and join a party and kick its ass.

Personaly, a huge zerg fest isn't enjoyable to me no matter how badass the boss looks, I'd miss the actual route to get to the point where I get the chance to fight something awesome, its like how you say a meal always taste better when you've preapared it yourself.
I'ts not about easy access being avaliable, its about what parts are skipped to gain such access, like interaction with fellow players and the game world itself.

Besides that, if GW2 has this "awesome" content, why not play that and let XIV do its own thing?

In same reasoning I question someone who demands to be able to have access to everything easily in an MMORPG, did you ever think that maybe this isn't a genre for such a gaming mindset?
At least MMORPGs used to be about a slower paced long term character progress trough both levels and content, not que up for instant boss kills without exiting the safety of town.

This is not me trying to paint anyone out in a bad way, its just the views of someone who has played this genre for well over a decade and see what has changed both in the games themsleves and the community.
So the above question is a honest one in that regard.

I'm feeling more and more that MMO devs just can't have a cake and eat it, they cant please both hardcore mindset and casuals, and in the end its always the hardcore playerbase that gets to feel the bad end of that.
And hardcore players where the ones that shaped most of the playerbase in the early days and we are now forgotten and tossed aside for the small chance of a MMO becomming the next big WoW clone.

So yeah that say I might come of as resenting this casual mentality thats ever growing in MMOs, its just that thoose craving more hardcore enviroment are running out of options as everything theese days does its best to cater to casual play.
And by that I don't mean that there shouldnt be casual content as well, but today everyone feels they should have access to everything no matter how much or little time they invested in the game.

It's a matter of opinion, I state mine: I'd like a more hardcore orientated MMO, where the game world, community and interaction with thoose elements matter.
There is already a vast sea of games which offer this lobby style quick gameplay that a content finder promotes to choose from.

Like I said earlier I'm probably part of a dying breed of more oldschool players, but I'm surely not alone.

[Choyi]

No, people would use it because the game would automatically match you up with people in like a couple min as opposed staying in 1 town shouting for people for like an hour to do the same thing the cross server finder could do in a min or two.

A min or two if your'e a tank or healer, up to half a hour to an hour if youre a DD.
Like in WoW you'll see tanks selling their que spot for loads of gold so the DD get a chance to get faster que times.

[Jinko]

Personaly, a huge zerg fest isn't enjoyable to me no matter how badass the boss looks, I'd miss the actual route to get to the point where I get the chance to fight something awesome, its like how you say a meal always taste better when you've preapared it yourself..

Well that's something entirely different, content made for 40+ people generally becomes a zerg fest anyway.

Besides that, if GW2 has this "awesome" content, why not play that and let XIV do its own thing?

Shove your attitude up your ass matey, can a person not mention another game round here without being attacked ?

besides that I probably will play it when it comes out.

This is not me trying to paint anyone out in a bad way, its just the views of someone who has played this genre for well over a decade and see what has changed both in the games themsleves and the community.
So the above question is a honest one in that regard.

You think that you are the only person with 10 years of experience playing MMO's, how cute !

I'm feeling more and more that MMO devs just can't have a cake and eat it, they cant please both hardcore mindset and casuals, and in the end its always the hardcore playerbase that gets to feel the bad end of that.
And hardcore players where the ones that shaped most of the playerbase in the early days and we are now forgotten and tossed aside for the small chance of a MMO becomming the next big WoW clone.

Don't feel butthurt, these companies exist to make money, I'm sure they don't care how you "paved the way" when all they want is your money.

There are more casuals out there = more money.

Like I said earlier I'm probably part of a dying breed of more oldschool players, but I'm surely not alone.

Nobody is pretending you are the only one, I would hardly consider myself a casual, I would probably fall somewhere in the grey area.

That being said even if I was a hardcore I would still beable to understand why game companies target the casual.

[Lior]

Shove your attitude up your ass matey, can a person not mention another game round here without being attacked ?

Really? It's an honest question: if there is a game coming out that already caters to what you want, why must a completely different game conform to that? Better yet, one of them isn't going to have a subscription fee; how would FFXIV compete with GW2 if they were functionally similar?