Content Finder

[Tezz_Xivectro]

I don't want to start another server battle, but it might be worthy of note that not all servers are like this... and server activity is bound to go up after the merge, and after 2.0 the population of a server will be even higher, hopefully.

I'm sure some servers are more than others. But overall i bet it still feels just as dead almost everywhere.

It's not like there are completely 0 shouts, there's still Spiritbond/leveling & the occasional ifrit/moogle every so often.
I've actually been surprised seeing them this late in the patches life. Since most people afk till next patch.


Regardless, it's too hard & early to tell if this enhancement will be a detriment to the 2.0 crowd and onwards.
It's starting to become an expected feature either way in the MMO "get up & go" direction as of late.

I believe this type of system will be good, but should have some kind of limitations for the cross-server aspect. Be it fatigue(Anima?) or only targeting specific content.

Not much else to say, so I'll leave you guys to it. ^^

[fusional]

tl;dr
Content Finder won't obsolete Linkshells or Free Company's
We still need good groups for challenging content & friends.
Will help stop the boring AFK in town.
Great for Casuals & anyone looking to just play (esp. to learn content).
Similar to telling people they don't HAVE to PL to 50, we don't have to queue up
We have an Open World. Instances aren't the entire game.
Complain if the devs make the entire RELEVANT endgame only this.
This won't be until after 2.0, check back later.

yes, this. exactly this.

[weeble]

i agree dont' want it to affect the gameplay and open world or community. in general though i don't consider 8man content endgame, it's extra stuff to me. it should be easy for all to do. but in general i like statics for it but ...if a content finder is in place i don't think it would be a bad idea for this type of content. for bcnm's and anything that involves small man to do. as for KS runs that take full large groups or sky, sea dynamisis or even limbus ...then yeah it's not like they will have one for these things. later i am only assuming mroe and more endgame will become larger pve scale like the one yoshi was talkign about being after 2.0 and ishgard saying over 40players at a time.

it don't hurt and especially i think it needs to be implemented for pvp type stuff ....take ffxi pvp ..it would of still years later been in use if it had a simple que for it and not force people to run zone to zone for them ...find people to do them with cause they were empty ..lot of work for those ....it's why it died out...it's not like it wasn't fun it was.

i guess i see it as...if this mmo is going the route of other mmo's and only plans on small man endgame, it's got bigger problems then the content finder. it helps for small groupings, specially since linkshells or not 8man is 8man and it's not like theres 3 or 4 or 5 ifrit or moogle fights happening all at same time with same linkshell right? people don't take that effort right now and i doubt ever will for small man dungeons. so it helps gather players easily.

[Sylvari]

Personally i would be content if they had the search system from FFXI and the dungeon queue finder system from WoW, Also WoW has an interesting way to deal with ninja's. Loot is defined by the class/role in which uses it and only those that use it can roll Need on it. I never had any problems with the search system FFXI had because i always started my own party, but that doesn't change the fact that some ppl just don't have the guts to put their selves out there and try to start something.. Some ppl prefer to follow and take orders. I believe for SE to be successful they need to give both groups a good system that can either help them make new friends to play with or just give them the shortest route to their content.

In this day and age ppl have far less patience and even less ppl skills. As a business SE has to adapt to that.

[Abauge_Goga]

I like OP's idea. Content finder ftw!

[Choyi]

I'm againts content(dungeon) finder type systems, probably cause I've seen the worst of what thoose systems can bring.
And as others have said it just promotes a more instanced based game in which case I question what it being a MMO even is the point.

All in all, lets have some real content first before we need to worry about weather getting a finder for it will be neccessary or not?

[fusional]

Games that do that tend to have higher incidences of player aggression and antisocial behavior.

can you cite references or provide data to back this claim?

i played wow for several years between xi and xiv, and i had to deal with more immature douches and awful players before the dungeon finder tool than after it. however, i wouldn't go as far as to say everyone had the same experiences as me (especially considering i'm an elitist and we tend to have different views on things than most players), and even if i tried it would be futile because i have no proof to back up my claim. i only have anecdotal evidence.

my point is simply that your comment seems to also be anecdotal evidence.

[Sylvari]

can you cite references or provide data to back this claim?

I think he/she is just confusing fact an opinion, Happens a lot.

[Sol_Aureus]

No, please god no.

The absolute last thing this game needs is more things that encourage solo play. One of the reasons I dislike most MMOs out there nowdays is that there's little to no sense of community and teamwork, even the battle systems generally have you doing your own thing, there's no need for teamwork. I play an MMO to play with other people, and I want content that reflects that.

It's one of the reasons I liked FFXI so much, it really felt like you were playing off of your party members with stuff like skillchains. It felt like you were a part of a team, not just doing your own thing. Salvage and Nyzul were good examples of content that required teamwork. That's what I want: teamwork and community, because honestly right now community is one of the biggest factors that's keeping this game alive. Adding in something that forsakes the need for community for convenience would be FFXIV shooting itself in the foot.

[Rousseau]

No, please god no.

The absolute last thing this game needs is more things that encourage solo play. One of the reasons I dislike most MMOs out there nowdays is that there's little to no sense of community and teamwork, even the battle systems generally have you doing your own thing, there's no need for teamwork. I play an MMO to play with other people, and I want content that reflects that.

It's one of the reasons I liked FFXI so much, it really felt like you were playing off of your party members with stuff like skillchains. It felt like you were a part of a team, not just doing your own thing. Salvage and Nyzul were good examples of content that required teamwork. That's what I want: teamwork and community, because honestly right now community is one of the biggest factors that's keeping this game alive. Adding in something that forsakes the need for community for convenience would be FFXIV shooting itself in the foot.

I don't think soloing is as much of the problem, but we are both concerned with the same potential outcome.

I'm really commenting, however, because you have Pinkie Pie in your sig. <3

Indeed, I am a fan of the story telling in both this game and FF11, it does set them both apart from other MMO's out there.

...

Final Fantasy wouldn't be Final Fantasy without a good story.

Well, there is something that we can both agree on, then.