Quote Originally Posted by WhyAmIHere View Post
my point is this: Holy Shelltron, Clemency, Equilibrium, Bloodwhetting / Nascent Flash, Thrill of Battle: All of this I'd argue are more potent heals than Heart of Corundum and Aurora, and certainly more than soul eater on a single hit / abyssal drain. This is of course ignoring soul eater over time, since *what else are you doing on DRK?*

Sure once the players are more at ease and familiar with their jobs, these numbers are more than likely to change. But I dont see the general trend of PLD/WAR having more sustain than GNB/DRK changing without SE tweaking potencies.

My issue with the data posted is that at best, it’s unreliable. That is also excluding the factor of having just two weeks of early access with Endwalker and folks adapting to their kit.

If we want true, accurate, measured data, then we need a strict test with controls set in place where the only variable is the jobs themselves. I doubt we will ever get that though.

This is why I dislike when folks throw out mass charts from aggregate data over a wide variety of scenarios and factors with no measure of controls and elimination of variables that would mask the truth of the data one seeks. I honestly feel it obfuscates more than it seeks to illuminate.


All of that having been said thus…

Drk has two sources of Sustain. If single target now, might as well only be one. Souleater. Abyssal Drain is only really good for multiple targets or trying to eke out whatever precious few seconds one has before activating their hated invuln if their healers are down.

Personally, due to HoC, I would consider Gunbreaker to be above Drk in sustain by comparison, even with the above data saying otherwise. Hence, my statement on seeking a sample down the road which might be more accurate.


Food for thought though. This kind of goes alone the lines of what are you saying about having only two tools.

But, how sad is it that if Drk wants to sustain, that in wall to wall pulls, they have to rely on Souleater and single target combo chains, as their strongest source of it to help offset healer stress, whereas in comparison with the other tanks, that isn’t even necessary on their end so much.