Dark Knight Megathread

[Shin96]

Xeno offers something the other streamers don't have. Which is criticism. And it's because he is a Tank player.

That's what I respect about the guy. I don't always agree with every single statement he makes but he brings attention to issues 99% of other FFXIV streamers will never talk about.

It's so exhausting to deal with constant positivity at the expense of innovation. People in this community defend every single decision the developers make at the detriment of what's enjoyable. They think all must be good; by extension alone, that includes Dark Knight. If more people were like him guess what? Games probably wouldn't suck as much anymore because we wouldn't cave in to a few snowflakes that have to make everything about themselves even if they don't play the job.

You would actually set a few standards based on experience and not feelings about things being too hard or difficult; that perspective is sorely missing.

[Dracosavarian]

What mainly drives me nuts is seeing all of the youtubers who act like Dark Knight is fine. I kid you not, I just got done watching a video on the status of all of the tanks, and the video in question was basically like " Dark Knight is great to pair with a healer! It's a great tank to heal, because TBN! OBLATION!!! "

And the individual in question came off like they ran all of the tanks. Knew them. Which felt like an outright lie to me. Drove me absolutely insane. Leveling through Endwalker was PAIN as Dark Knight. All of the dungeons had me encountering problems that should not have existed. Period. So to see folks acting as though everything is perfectly fine just makes me shake my head in dismay.

I was leveling Reaper to 90 today, and in the level 87 Dungeon ( I am not going to name it because I don't wish to spoil things for others. Please folks, don't mention dungeon names or ANYTHING. Please be mindful of spoilers to others!!! Thank you! ) I kid you not, I watched the Paladin take the final boss from 70% health with another Reaper, to 0%, eventually being the last one standing. The rest of us had all died.

Warrior would be capable of doing that nowadays. Gunbreaker as well.

Dark Knight?

Dark Knight would be eating the freaking floor in short order. Souleater and Abyssal Drain would not have been enough to keep them going. And using LD is pointless without a healer to back us up. A problem the other tanks don't have, because they can use their healing abilities after using their Invuln to help recovery.


The situation right now with Drk is depressing.

[Shurrikhan]

At this point, I'd happily just take:

• TBN reduced to 20% (easier to break).
• Enhanced Unmend instead gives a free-cast of Plunge (for 5-10 seconds).
• Oblation increased to 15%; duration reduced to 8 seconds and cooldown reduced to 40 seconds.
• C&S and Abyssal Drain gain a second charge. They and Bloodspiller inflict Blood Price for 5 seconds, causing targets affected to heal you for 30% of the damage you deal to them.
• Blood Weapon stacks.

Though, ideally, convert Blood Weapon into a Darkside-consuming toggle that increases Attack Speed by 10%, increasing (while more than proportionately increasing Darkside consumption) with Darkside duration consumed or generated to a maximum of 20% bonus attack speed.

It's pretty much Bloodbath.

Not, really, no. Even when Bloodbath was a Marauder skill, it was simply 25% of damage dealt, but multi-target damage isn't n times one's single-target damage, unlike the self-healing from Bloodwhetting. It could allow for one to survive without heals, but not to effectively self-Benediction every GCD in large pulls.

[Ferrinus]

Question from someone who's just leveling DRK to do the role quests with: is there a reason that Delirium causes Bloodspiller to restore 200 MP per swing but Quietus to restore 500 MP per swing? It's not like Blood Weapon changes how much MP it gives you whether you're attacking one or many targets.

[Shurrikhan]

I think that's because Stalwart Soul would give 1k MP per cast and the Delirium bonuses were to give the respective ST and AoE Blood spenders the same mana per GCD as the ST and AoE combos, respectively?

[Ferrinus]

I think that's because Stalwart Soul would give 1k MP per cast and the Delirium bonuses were to give the respective ST and AoE Blood spenders the same mana per GCD as the ST and AoE combos, respectively?

That's a good thought, but I just checked and it looks like Stalwart Soul gives 600 MP on hit with its combo bonus, so Delirium -> Quietus should really be yielding 300 MP per spin to maintain parity. That the return is 500 instead still confuses me.

[Yeol]

[Axxion]

I got damn chocked with this.

[Kalaam]

I'd say his "tough guy" attitude discourage most people to criticize since it creates that weird dichotomy of "if you like the game and don't have anything to say you are positive and funny and wholesome" and "if you have criticism you are rude and insulting people".
You can criticize without being rude, no need to put on a show.

[Shin96]

Knowing social media and how they like to cancel people that show their honest opinions, I think you kinda have to act tough otherwise it makes you look like an easy target.

Personally I would do it in a respectful way but we've gone to levels of positivity it's almost toxic sadly.