Content Finder

[Chardrizard]

- There is no different between strangers from other server and your current server, they are strangers.

- There is also no reason social ethics and behavious will goes out of the window for many players, people acts the way they do to strangers whether they are from other or your current server, if people were douches, they will stay douches. People don't just become a douche.


- How in the world does this foster the forever alone guy soloing mentality when the whole reason to queue for content finder is to play with another people because apparently this forever alone guy's server arent able to provide that? Nobody would be using cross server finder if there were plenty of things going on at the server, but that isn't the way it is.

[Mychael]

- There is no different between strangers from other server and your current server, they are strangers.

Disagree. FFXIV servers are like small towns. If you do something worthy of not in your small town, people will tell people, even if they don't know you personally. If you go one of the other ten small towns around the world and do something worthy of note, that small town might find out about it, but chances are no one you regularly speak to will ever know.

- There is also no reason social ethics and behavious will goes out of the window for many players, people acts the way they do to strangers whether they are from other or your current server, if people were douches, they will stay douches. People don't just become a douche.

It's all about consequences. If I'm from another server and am tanking Baat with your dungeon finder group, and MPK everyone in the party right before he dies (with my best friend's assistance), leave you all dead, kick you from the party, pop the chests and leave, what are you gonna do? Get on the forums and complain? lulz. Maybe 10 people from my actual server will notice.

- How in the world does this foster the forever alone guy soloing mentality when the whole reason to queue for content finder is to play with another people because apparently this forever alone guy's server arent able to provide that? Nobody would be using cross server finder if there were plenty of things going on at the server, but that isn't the way it is.

Agreed on this one, partially. It's not so much a result of there not being enough to do, imo. In fact, the more things there are, the less people will be doing the thing you need (as many will be doing the plethora ofother things). The problem is more that there's no reason for anyone to keep doing the limited number of things there are.

[Nabiri]

- There is no different between strangers from other server and your current server, they are strangers.

- There is also no reason social ethics and behavious will goes out of the window for many players, people acts the way they do to strangers whether they are from other or your current server, if people were douches, they will stay douches. People don't just become a douche.

This is true.. I would show people the same courtesies and politeness no matter what..
They all deserve the same respect.
The only difference for me is, I would only talk when I have to with people from other servers, but I could actually have fun with and get to know people on my own server.
So I'd just prefer an in-server content finder. :x

I don't understand why people would suddenly be rude to those on other servers but not their own.. I'm sure it happens sometimes, but I just don't understand people like that.

[Sylvari]

This is true.. I would show people the same courtesies and politeness no matter what..
They all deserve the same respect.
The only difference for me is, I would only talk when I have to with people from other servers, but I could actually have fun with and get to know people on my own server.
So I'd just prefer a in-server content finder. :x

I don't understand why people would suddenly be rude to those on other servers but not their own.. I'm sure it happens sometimes, but I just don't understand people like that.

I agree, Although i would prefer a content finder that is server exclusive i wouldn't be fazed either way. I'd be happy just to have something that can cut down the time i wait.

[Rokien]

I agree, Although i would prefer a content finder that is server exclusive i wouldn't be fazed either way. I'd be happy just to have something that can cut down the time i wait.

Pretty sure my example I said earlier... included your "time I wait".... Sooo, when I invite you to a party, your going to stick around for x amount of time before it is created, or you going to say "LETS USE THE FINDER"....

rude player is rude.

[Sylvari]

Pretty sure my example I said earlier... included your "time I wait".... Sooo, when I invite you to a party, your going to stick around for x amount of time before it is created, or you going to say "LETS USE THE FINDER"....

rude player is rude.

I'm happy to wait, If the leader wants to invite more ppl then i don't mind. If I'm leader then I'll invite my friends and then if nothing comes up, I'll use the finder and enjoy some runs.

edit: I'm aware that ^ comment does contradict my other one, But i do have a lot of patience.

[Rokien]

I'm happy to wait, If the leader wants to invite more ppl then i don't mind. If I'm leader then I'll invite my friends and then if nothing comes up, I'll use the finder and enjoy some runs.

edit: I'm aware that ^ comment does contradict my other one, But i do have a lot of patience.

Invite your friends... Why not make new friends on the server where it matters. Instead of helping other people that you don't even know or won't see again.
It seems more beneficial to help the people you will be playing with or more of a chance to play with than random dumbies.

[Sylvari]

Invite your friends... Why not make new friends on the server where it matters. Instead of helping other people that you don't even know or won't see again.
It seems more beneficial to help the people you will be playing with or more of a chance to play with than random dumbies.

Who says i want anything out of it? Who says having a nice conversation isn't enough?

[Chardrizard]

Invite your friends... Why not make new friends on the server where it matters. Instead of helping other people that you don't even know or won't see again.
It seems more beneficial to help the people you will be playing with or more of a chance to play with than random dumbies.

I feel sorry for you if you thinks u can only make friends from your server and random strangers from other server is all dumbies to you? No wonder people ignores your posts in this forum.

[Choyi]

I never once belived XIV would have anywhere near the success of WoW, if it has over 500k subs at peak even that be a surprise (and 500k isnt a nubmer to scoff at, thats more then most MMOs once theyre past their initial laucnh spectacle)
Even if it has 100k players, over 10 server, well you do the math of chances to run into another person again.

And this is besides the point, its about the inniative to interact with other players in the first place, and for many thats a lot lower when you are bundled with people that you realistcly belive you wont meet again.
And no this isnt about anyone being rude or bad behavior in a random dungeon finder party, its about lack of any sort of emotion or chat more then "Hi" "ready?" and "cya".

Say that most of the high end content is instanced in dungeons, with a dungeon finder system people will log on, que up and then afk in town until they get put in a group, and after dungeon run is over the pop back into town, rinse and repeat.
You eliminate first the need to interact with others on your server (why spend effort shouting etc forming a group when you can just let computer do so for you?) meaning towns will be as dead as now even with 100x the amoun of players.
Secondly you eliminate the reason to travel outside the city, there will be no people traveling around between aerthytes and no gathering of groups outside dungeone entrances etc.

Since its the biggest example of this, take a look in WoW, go anywhere outside any city in WoW and you will be hard pressed to find any larger amounts of player anywhere, after dungeon finder was introduced in WoW thats pretty much all people do, sit in town half afk queing.
Towns are silent apart from random trade chat trolling and the occasional advertisment for someone selling something, and the gameworld is barren of intiligent life to the point it feels more like a Co-op game then a MMO outside cities.
I know this is turning to be a standard in modern day MMOs but must every new MMO theese days mimic WoW for both good and bad?

And I don't dislike WoW, I just miss the days when playing an MMO meant to play togheter with others in something that felt like a genuine virtual world, instead of just playing more or less solo amongst other soloists jumping from one instanced hub or lobby to another.