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  1. #31
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Wut? You realize a very small percentage of players do that content right? Most people never step foot in a raid.
    The part to take away from that would be there is no end game content. If they delay savage that would mean that the patch would be delayed. Thus everything included in that patch would be delayed. This would include less crafting gear, less crafting progress, and less housing furniture. Two other draws to the game outside of savage.
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    As of now onlly if people are going play really late or early. Or if they willing to risk a ban for a "no kick" macro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant View Post
    If they delay savage though the game dies as there is no end game content.
    They would also have to delay normal as every one would be over geared and savage would be a joke.
    The game was not dead for the dead times 9f mo content before EW. 8n fact it onlly got more players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhysati View Post
    Wut? You realize a very small percentage of players do that content right? Most people never step foot in a raid.
    Just because you don't personally raid, doesn't mean that other people don't.

    Clear rates of the first fight of a savage fight in a tier often approach like 25% of the games endgame population PRE ECHO, with that number increasing significantly again after echo is implemented. Some JP servers have achieved full-tier savage clear rates as high as 40% during some tiers.

    Even TEA has like an 11% clear rate on some datacenters.

    The 'content for 1% of the population' meme needs to die.
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    Last edited by LittleImp; 12-14-2021 at 12:14 AM.

  5. #35
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    Thea Sitori
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    Yeah, we all practically had to make sure we are logged into the queue by say 5pm for a 7pm-ish raid. Never mind having to nurse the queue sometimes because of 2002 shenanigans (a whole another story).
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  6. #36
    Player IdowhatIwant's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by technole View Post
    Yeah, we all practically had to make sure we are logged into the queue by say 5pm for a 7pm-ish raid. Never mind having to nurse the queue sometimes because of 2002 shenanigans (a whole another story).
    Gilgamesh yesterday was about a 5 hours queue time. So unless that shortens some how, people would have to try to get online by 2pm to raid at example 8pm (giving yourself an hour prep time). With people that work this is not going to be realistic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    All the doom and gloom. Expansion is been out barely a week stop crying. Que's are settling down slowly give some more time you worry warts.
    Except the queues are absolutely not getting better. The absence of 2002's is a low bar, but I'll give you that one. I have had less 2002 errors since the emergency maintenance. However, that does not mean that the situation is better. Sitting in queue for 2-4 hours a day is not my definition of "getting better." Furthermore, the emergency maintenance may have helped the 2002's, but people like me are still getting them at inopportune moments during the queue and then being forced to the back of the line. So a 2-3 hour queue then becomes a 4-6 hour queue. Maybe your server is doing fine and your experience hasn't been as much of a cluster as the rest of ours, but this comment is extremely disingenuous to those of us who are still actively experiencing these problems.
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    It really isn't that hard to treat other people like human beings.

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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Quote Originally Posted by lezard21 View Post
    My bet is that they are either going to push back Savage till 6.1 and Ultimate will get pushed to 6.3

    This game is no longer for hardcore players if the Summoner revamp was not evidence enough.
    They aren't going to push Savage back three months. That literally destroy any and all reason to even bother with it as gear progression for the entire tier would be utterly meaningless.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteblade89 View Post
    Except the queues are absolutely not getting better. The absence of 2002's is a low bar, but I'll give you that one. I have had less 2002 errors since the emergency maintenance. However, that does not mean that the situation is better. Sitting in queue for 2-4 hours a day is not my definition of "getting better." Furthermore, the emergency maintenance may have helped the 2002's, but people like me are still getting them at inopportune moments during the queue and then being forced to the back of the line. So a 2-3 hour queue then becomes a 4-6 hour queue. Maybe your server is doing fine and your experience hasn't been as much of a cluster as the rest of ours, but this comment is extremely disingenuous to those of us who are still actively experiencing these problems.
    Guess the word slowly eludes you..ques are improving if you are on a high pop server. Well your at the bottom of the server toilet and will be the last ones to notice. As I said expansion been out barely week your jumping gun and blowing your brains out. Give it more time..
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    Pugilist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    Guess the word slowly eludes you..ques are improving if you are on a high pop server. Well your at the bottom of the server toilet and will be the last ones to notice. As I said expansion been out barely week your jumping gun and blowing your brains out. Give it more time..

    More time this stuff comes out soon. You are right it will settle some. But you are expecting it to settle that much in less then 22 days? Moving it to 6.1 might be a little sketchy unless they think they can solve all the problems at 6.1. But reasonable to push 6.01 back to the 6.05 date of Jan 4 and then 6.05 into Jan at their earliest convenience. This should at least remove the three holiday events and any Xmas/New years holiday people. Lowering the world population even a bit more and maybe to the manageable numbers you think they are already getting to.
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