Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

[darkstarpoet1]

With every argument, everyone has a potential to be right and wrong. I was just stating how FF has always been, if it has a little twist with "Very limited cross-classing" then that's cool I suppose.. it still makes Jobs Unique without having that " Freelancerish" feel to it. Either way, I will love it.. and if thats the case.. then this may likely happen:

-Classes= Mostly able to Cross-class
-Jobs= Very Limited cross-classing
-Advance jobs= No Cross-Classing

Which I would be fine with that also :P.

so would i. don't get me wrong my posts weren't about being an argument. it was just more of a thing where i question how many limits they will have. i don't mind either way as long as the jobs themselves play completely different from each other and don't feel like they are the same thing holding different weapons.

[Starlord]

@ Starlord:

A Job will be unable to cross class skills that belong to other jobs. That much is obvious, being that each job skill is exclusive to said job.

A job is a specialized version of the one class that it stems from. A PLD is a special GLA, a MNK a special PGL, etc. The secondary classes are there to add flavor, an extra requirement to make some sort of sense in the direction in which the primary class is specializing.
So a PLD is not cross classing skills from GLA and CNJ. A PLD is a GLA with access to unique job skills and equipment. Possibly even traits, though that hasn't been disclosed.

It is confirmed that Jobs will be able to cross-class, but that it will be very limited in comparison to classes themselves. Either the number of skills one can cross class will be limited, or the classes from which each job can take skills - or what I believe will be the case which is both.
So PLD will perhaps be able to equip abilities from CNJ and MRD, but nothing else.

In short, just like FFXI with Main/sub just a different version of it.

[Jynx]

I wonder if the sub-class will be tied to the quest missions...man I hope not I don't want to rank my gladiator past 15.

[NoctisUmbra]

I wonder if the sub-class will be tied to the quest missions...man I hope not I don't want to rank my gladiator past 15.

I think the way it works is you need the primary and secondary at 30 and 15 respectively for the first quest. Once you finish that quest you unlock the job. The job matches the level of your primary class, which will be at least 30. After that the quests at 35, 40, 45 and 50 will be based on the level of the job, not any of the classes.

[darkstarpoet1]

I think the way it works is you need the primary and secondary at 30 and 15 respectively for the first quest. Once you finish that quest you unlock the job. The job matches the level of your primary class, which will be at least 30. After that the quests at 35, 40, 45 and 50 will be based on the level of the job, not any of the classes.

your job will be ranked along with your class that unlocks it. if you are a r50 gla you get r50 pld. you will not get its abilities without completing the quests though. if you are r35 gla you will be r35 pld. as you rank either pld or gla both the class and the job levels will increase together. no matter the level of your pld you have to complete the quests to unlock its abilities.

[Mychael]

your job will be ranked along with your class that unlocks it. if you are a r50 gla you get r50 pld. you will not get its abilities without completing the quests though. if you are r35 gla you will be r35 pld. as you rank either pld or gla both the class and the job levels will increase together. no matter the level of your pld you have to complete the quests to unlock its abilities.

Yes but the question Noctis was answering was whether or not we'd need to continue leveling the lower of the two required jobs to continue questing.

I.e. will the minimum levels be:

• CNJ30 GLA15 (Stone, First Skill)
• CNJ35 GLA17 (Second Skill)
• . . .
• CNJ50 GLA25 (Final Skill)

or

• CNJ30 GLA15
• WHM35 [i.e. CNJ35] (Second Skill)
• . . .
• WHM50 [i.e. CNJ50] (Final Skill)

[Starlord]

Yes but the question Noctis was answering was whether or not we'd need to continue leveling the lower of the two required jobs to continue questing.

I.e. will the minimum levels be:

• CNJ30 GLA15 (Stone, First Skill)
• CNJ35 GLA17 (Second Skill)
• . . .
• CNJ50 GLA25 (Final Skill)

or

• CNJ30 GLA15
• WHM35 [i.e. CNJ35] (Second Skill)
• . . .
• WHM50 [i.e. CNJ50] (Final Skill)

I vote for this way.. makes much more sense... and I love the fact that if they do it this way.. it add challenge to get the skills you desire.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yes but the question Noctis was answering was whether or not we'd need to continue leveling the lower of the two required jobs to continue questing.

I.e. will the minimum levels be:

• CNJ30 GLA15 (Stone, First Skill)
• CNJ35 GLA17 (Second Skill)
• . . .
• CNJ50 GLA25 (Final Skill)

or

• CNJ30 GLA15
• WHM35 [i.e. CNJ35] (Second Skill)
• . . .
• WHM50 [i.e. CNJ50] (Final Skill)

if i am not mistaken all the quests will be unlocked through the class that unlocks the job since its skill level is based off it. i could be mistaken, but i don't think the secondary(if they plan to have one) is going to have any bearing on the class besides unlocking them.

the reason i stated if they still have one if because once yoshi stated the gla30/mrd15 for unlocking pld, but later he mentioned they would be on a 1 to 1 basis so it may just be gla only to unlock pld. i know he stated in the future he wanted to have jobs that took multiple classes to unlock them, but i think that is for jobs in the future and not the jobs coming out this patch.

once again though we don't have all the up to date info on that so it's all just us guessing on what the final product is.

[Mychael]

a30/mrd15 for unlocking pld, but later he mentioned they would be on a 1 to 1 basis so it may just be gla only to unlock pld. i know he stated in the future he wanted to have jobs that took multiple classes to unlock them, but i think that is for jobs in the future and not the jobs coming out this patch.

Bay posted the level requirements for each job, there is indeed a secondary class. :< Confirmed that we need both to unlock, but what happens to the "secondary" class after unlocking remains to be seen.

Of the two I mentioned, I can imagine both. The first case would be best if the secondary class is directly tied into how we play our job, i.e. if we can use ONLY GLA/CNJ abilties on WHM, or if cross-classes from GLA are enhanced, I would like that GLA continues to be required.

But if GLA is only part of the lore for the unlock quest and has little to do with playing the job, I only want it to be part of the unlock quest, not the remaining job quests.

[darkstarpoet1]

Bay posted the level requirements for each job, there is indeed a secondary class. :< Confirmed that we need both to unlock, but what happens to the "secondary" class after unlocking remains to be seen.

Of the two I mentioned, I can imagine both. The first case would be best if the secondary class is directly tied into how we play our job, i.e. if we can use ONLY GLA/CNJ abilties on WHM, or if cross-classes from GLA are enhanced, I would like that GLA continues to be required.

But if GLA is only part of the lore for the unlock quest and has little to do with playing the job, I only want it to be part of the unlock quest, not the remaining job quests.

ok yeah i agree with you then. i hadn't seen the post on the jobs classes required to unlock. if that's the case it could be whm could only use the skills from con/gla. i wouldn't mind if it's that method. i'm glad this is the last week and we will get all info on the patch.