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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    Ya then why did the servers reach cap before the majority of people? B/c inactive characters/ accounts made up part of the population for each server
    Nope, because they are not at "cap".

    If they were at a cap due to inactive accounts THEY WOULD STAY CLOSED.

    However they haven't, Ridill has been open many times throughout the day. Because they clearly have a dynamic cap meant to try and funnel people transfering evenly among the servers.

    The problem is that no one is going to Ragnorak, so it is keeping the cap for the rest of the servers very low. Everytime someone signs up for Ragnorak it likely increases the cap of allowable transfers to other servers.

    The cap is entirely made up of ACTIVE PLAYERS. Yoshida himself stated this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Unfortunately, this isn’t likely to change from what was outlined in the previous announcement. In keeping with the concept behind the World Merge, the primary goal is to maintain a balance of active players (i.e. characters) on the servers. If we allow hundreds of thousands of currently inactive characters to freely transfer across Worlds, there’s a high risk that our calculations for time zone peak numbers on every World will end up in chaos.


    Thats a quote for Y

    so if inactive characters didnt matter then ????
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackreaper View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Unfortunately, this isn’t likely to change from what was outlined in the previous announcement. In keeping with the concept behind the World Merge, the primary goal is to maintain a balance of active players (i.e. characters) on the servers. If we allow hundreds of thousands of currently inactive characters to freely transfer across Worlds, there’s a high risk that our calculations for time zone peak numbers on every World will end up in chaos.


    Thats a quote for Y

    so if inactive characters didnt matter then ????
    Who said they don't matter. That just explains why they don't allow them to transfer, it says nothing about them affecting the cap. Which they don't.

    Which Yoshida said.

    They were counted most likely in determining the original merge plan (which they made to try and balance the time zones and likely took into account inactive players then since they are not idiots), but the cap is entirely determined by active players.

    What is your vendetta against inactive players? Clearly they have no affect on your ability to transfer servers since the cap is active players only.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    Well if that is the case (which it might just be coincidence) then whatever but that is a seperate issue from what people like Coombah and the OP are advocating.

    They want to ship anyone who does not have an active account to Ragnorak. But doing that woudl solve nothing since:

    "Inactive characters/non-subscribers are also counted, but they are not factored into the maximum limit of active characters allocated to each server."

    Yes we are arguing semantics. They misunderstand what the issue is, and as a result of that are advocating a dangerously stupid and unnecessary/ineffectual solution to the problem.
    No one said they should be ship to Rag, I stated they should be put into a holding server and when they activate there account they can choose the new world of their choice depended on availability.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    No one said they should be ship to Rag, I stated they should be put into a holding server and when they activate there account they can choose the new world of their choice depended on availability.
    lol what's the difference. They aren't affecting the cap (as stated by SE). So why don't you just leave them alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    No one said they should be ship to Rag, I stated they should be put into a holding server and when they activate there account they can choose the new world of their choice depended on availability.
    That's what I was thinking put Inactive Characters in a Holding Server in which when they activate there account again.. to just select a New World =). I Agree with you on this.. Not Delete them entirely no..because then the Customer would get highly ticked off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Starlord View Post
    That's what I was thinking put Inactive Characters in a Holding Server in which when they activate there account again.. to just select a New World =). I Agree with you on this.. Not Delete them entirely no..because then the Customer would get highly ticked off.
    lol like that was even ever an option.

    Not that this is either. I'm done. You people are off your rockers, you should just post stupid meme pictures for each other because nothing you type is relevant since inactive accounts do not affect the cap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coombah View Post
    No one said they should be ship to Rag, I stated they should be put into a holding server and when they activate there account they can choose the new world of their choice depended on availability.
    YP specifically said that would potentially cause problems though. Not to mention that, like Murugan, I believe completely innactive accounts are not being factored in here, just inactive (unpaid) characters on active accounts that are being paid for (basic sub fee).

    Was the character you moved on your active account or on another account that is completely inactive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    lol what's the difference. They aren't affecting the cap (as stated by SE). So why don't you just leave them alone.
    If its not affecting the cap... then where exactly do the Inactive players end up at? Just curious... Inactive players player a role in Servers... Its either one or the other.. :/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Murugan View Post
    Who said they don't matter. That just explains why they don't allow them to transfer, it says nothing about them affecting the cap. Which they don't.

    Which Yoshida said.

    They were counted most likely in determining the original merge plan (which they made to try and balance the time zones and likely took into account inactive players then since they are not idiots), but the cap is entirely determined by active players.

    What is your vendetta against inactive players? Clearly they have no affect on your ability to transfer servers since the cap is active players only.
    All players have to be accounted for, inactive or active. If all inactive players came back they have to be accounted for. The cap ur are talking about I can bet is different based on how many inactive account/characters are on each server. So each server has a different cap (available spaces for active players) Thus inactive players accounts or whatever you want to call them do affect.
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