Creepy ffxiv Bots

[syntaxlies]

what if they do invstigate your repotts? and find nothing wrong with what they are doing

when it comes to these "farming parties" of 8 players people see i can easily see how someone can do it legaly, since there is no rule against multiboxing at all

thats the problem, you have to know what rule they are breaking, and there is no rule being broken by 8 people being in a party on autofollow

but hes running an automated farming bot, the path is character runs is 100%identical each time which wouldn't be humanly possible. i know it was the identical path cause tested it by standing in different spots. after he got back to camp his character rested there for an identical amount of time before looping around again.
and then theres the fact that he was killing things that haven't even popped yet.

[TheVedis]

but hes running an automated farming bot, the path is character runs is 100%identical each time which wouldn't be humanly possible. i know it was the identical path cause tested it by standing in different spots. after he got back to camp his character rested there for an identical amount of time before looping around again.

if he is running a bot then there is the grounds for being banned
the problem lies in that he has to be caught running it, and again, players seeing it isnt proof enough to banm, the gm has to see it(or task force) and some of these people doing it have learned how to dodge that at this point theyve been doing it so long over the course of a decade of mmos

[syntaxlies]

if he is running a bot then there is the grounds for being banned
the problem lies in that he has to be caught running it, and again, players seeing it isnt proof enough to banm, the gm has to see it(or task force) and some of these people doing it have learned how to dodge that at this point theyve been doing it so long over the course of a decade of mmos

the problem is the people who should be banning are not there. I honestly believe there is no task force yet, prob wont be til 2.0.

[TheVedis]

the problem is the people who should be banning are not there. I honestly believe there is no task force yet, prob wont be til 2.0.

ive seen otherwise, unfortunately as i said, botters, especialy the rmt variety, have learned how to get around it over the course of the years, they arent as easy to catch now as they were 5-10 years ago
once they strart up their rmt BS though alot of them will be gone real quick

[Vassteel]

so let me get this strait Thevedis thinks these lalafels are on auto follow. hmm iirc auto follow does not target and cancel target like the behavior in the video i posted.

i could set up a 24/hour bot cam and stream that but its a machine and who the fuck would watch that.


from what ive been told so far these bots are leve bots. they stand there activate leves whilst another bot goes and kills the sheep. when the bots run out of leves they break and just cycle through their targets.

also from what i gather from reading previous post thevedis sure seem like a hardcore bot defender. TBH he is probaly a botter his defensive posts sure haven't helped him any

[TheVedis]

so let me get this strait Thevedis thinks these lalafels are on auto follow. hmm iirc auto follow does not target and cancel target like the behavior in the video i posted.

i could set up a 24/hour bot cam and stream that but its a machine and who the fuck would watch that.


from what ive been told so far these bots are leve bots. they stand there activate leves whilst another bot goes and kills the sheep. when the bots run out of leves they break and just cycle through their targets.

also from what i gather from reading previous post thevedis sure seem like a hardcore bot defender. TBH he is probaly a botter his defensive posts sure haven't helped him any

im not saying they are bots, im not syaing they are not

im saying you as a player do not determine that so demanding they be banned cuz you are the proof isnt gonna cut it

keep reporting them, one day they will get caught in the act of doing something wrong if there is in fact something wrong being done



maybe i should claim you are a bot and you are just trying to eliminate your rmt competition? i dont need proof, i said so therefore thats how it has to be right? thats basicaly what everyone here is claiming, their word should be all that matters in the judgement, no investigation is needed


just because im not jumping on the "burn them all at the stakes we dont need a trial" bandwagon doesnt mean im defending a damn thing other then their right to be investigated first

[syntaxlies]

im not saying they are bots, im not syaing they are not

im saying you as a player do not determine that so demanding they be banned cuz you are the proof isnt gonna cut it

keep reporting them, one day they will get caught in the act of doing something wrong if there is in fact something wrong being done



maybe i should claim you are a bot and you are just trying to eliminate your rmt competition? i dont need proof, i said so therefore thats how it has to be right? thats basicaly what everyone here is claiming, their word should be all that matters in the judgement, no investigation is needed


just because im not jumping on the "burn them all at the stakes we dont need a trial" bandwagon doesnt mean im defending a damn thing other then their right to be investigated first

i think if they actually investigated them they would have been banned.

[TheVedis]

i think if they actually investigated them they would have been banned.

they do ban the ones they catch doing something

the problem is, not all of them are always botting, and just perhaps...what they are doing isnt botting


i can just imagine the person sitting there 8 boxing it with his main and 7 mules all doing leves together
and a gm goes to investigate, and all he sees is 7 people sitting afk, and now and then hitting a button to start a leve
still nothing illegal there

then he sees the high person completing them

still not illegal

if they try to talk to said afk people who are actively gaining exp, the person using all 8 of them can easily respond on any of them that he happens to see said message on

hes not afk, hes just playing all 8 characters, again, nothing illegal there



as long as no 3rd party software is being used that is deemed illegal by the TOS, then no rule is bring broken



thats the problem, we may see it as being wrong(i personaly dont like them either) but when it comes down to it, a rule has to be broken in order for them to be punished, and no one seems to be able to point out what rule is actualy being broken

all i see is a bunch of people claiming they are botting, but how are they botting? 7 people afk while 1 person is actively completing all the leves is NOT botting unless they have a program somehow doing it all for them, which no one has been able to prove yet, and im sure SE is looking at them and seeing the exact same thing i am trying to explain to you.



In the future, these will be rmt however, and thats when they will be caught, and banned, but until the rules are actualy broken, there is nothing to ban them on

[DoubleEcho]

im not saying they are bots, im not syaing they are not

im saying you as a player do not determine that so demanding they be banned cuz you are the proof isnt gonna cut it

A reasonable person with a couple months of playing experience in this game could determine that these are bots. Why is it so hard for you to say "Yes this looks like a bot" when the evidence is right in your face? Just make a decision already, none of this vagueness.

It's simple.
TheVedis, with the evidence in the video, do you think they are bots - Yes or No?

[syntaxlies]

they do ban the ones they catch doing something

the problem is, not all of them are always botting, and just perhaps...what they are doing isnt botting


i can just imagine the person sitting there 8 boxing it with his main and 7 mules all doing leves together
and a gm goes to investigate, and all he sees is 7 people sitting afk, and now and then hitting a button to start a leve
still nothing illegal there

then he sees the high person completing them

still not illegal

if they try to talk to said afk people who are actively gaining exp, the person using all 8 of them can easily respond on any of them that he happens to see said message on

hes not afk, hes just playing all 8 characters, again, nothing illegal there



as long as no 3rd party software is being used that is deemed illegal by the TOS, then no rule is bring broken



thats the problem, we may see it as being wrong(i personaly dont like them either) but when it comes down to it, a rule has to be broken in order for them to be punished, and no one seems to be able to point out what rule is actualy being broken

all i see is a bunch of people claiming they are botting, but how are they botting? 7 people afk while 1 person is actively completing all the leves is NOT botting unless they have a program somehow doing it all for them, which no one has been able to prove yet, and im sure SE is looking at them and seeing the exact same thing i am trying to explain to you.



In the future, these will be rmt however, and thats when they will be caught, and banned, but until the rules are actualy broken, there is nothing to ban them on

all i can say is you could have defended OJ