Housing crisis

[Dewslam]

People with grandfathered homes aren't selfish jerks.

Except it is selfish to lay claim to more than your fair share of a highly limited resource. There's no penalty to demolish their excess houses - so by default keeping them is the selfish option. People really want to twist selfish into some hilarious slur against house hoarders and take greater offense to the word than anything else when the very basic behavior on display is, indeed, selfish. Owning a private FC just for yourself is selfish - and I say that as someone who has a private FC and has been trying to get a house for it. If you don't like being called selfish for doing selfish things, there's only one course of option to take: stop doing selfish things. Otherwise you kind of have to learn to live with it because lmao at trying to demand people not be allowed to voice their opinions on matters that actually do impact them. If you don't want people to judge you for your exploitation of the rules, stop doing it. Because yeah, you're selfish. Every word of your post oozes selfish entitlement and it's hilarious.

[LaylaTsarra]

Except it is selfish to lay claim to more than your fair share of a highly limited resource

According to you. I would say it's selfish to expect to have people give up something they earned fair and square. Not happening and SE has recognized that it's unfair to penalize those people for having more than one and as such has grandfathered them.

Is it wrong to own more than one on different servers too? Should people check with you first to be sure what they do when following the rules is OK? SE had the the option to limit one house per account with the new rules and they chose not to. So you want to demonize them too with your little morality filter?

[Dewslam]

According to you. I would say it's selfish to expect to have people give up something they earned fair and square.

We can debate whether they earned it fair and square but you're not wrong, it is selfish to expect someone to give up a house so I can have one; and I'll be pretty open about being selfish. I want a house, I want raid gear, minions and mounts - I mash that need button every time something drops. But no one is outright expecting them to give up their houses. Certainly some people want them to. But keeping extra houses they don't need is quite literally the selfish option. The selfless option, of course, being to give the plots up to the community at large and dusting their hands of it. You seem to struggle with the idea that being selfish isn't the same thing as being malicious. You don't have to be acting to deprive others to be selfish, just acting out of self interest rather than communal interest.

Square Enix grandfathered in house ownership in a time when the game's community was far smaller and the housing system in far less of a demand, the changes being made in 6.0 and beyond show that they're displaying far less of a tolerance for people who play the "there are no rules against this..." game and general community response seems to indicate higher approval of that path than if they were to loosen it back up and let a select handful of people selfishly hoard everything. You can cry about people demonizing you or judging you all you want but all I really have to say in response to that is that hey, there are no rules against subjective moral and ethical judgements or opinions. You chose to do something you clearly knew would rankle others, then double down on it when challenged. If you can't handle the idea of people disapproving of the things you do, don't do them.

[LaylaTsarra]

We can debate whether they earned it fair and square but you're not wrong,

No I'm not thank you for agreeing.

You chose to do something you clearly knew would rankle others, then double down on it when challenged. If you can't handle the idea of people disapproving of the things you do, don't do them.

Can't handle it? Don't presuppose how I feel about comments like yours.

You still haven't answered this question directly

"Is it wrong to own more than one on different servers too? Should people check with you first to be sure what they do when following the rules is OK? SE had the the option to limit one house per account with the new rules and they chose not to."

Maybe you should direct your comments/ethical morality and outrage at SE who has the option to fix the housing problem but to date has chosen not to do so instead of trying to demonize those who simply follow the rules.

[Izscha]

No I'm not thank you for agreeing.



Can't handle it? Don't presuppose how I feel about comments like yours.

You still haven't answered this question directly

"Is it wrong to own more than one on different servers too? Should people check with you first to be sure what they do when following the rules is OK? SE had the the option to limit one house per account with the new rules and they chose not to."

Maybe you should direct your comments/ethical morality at SE who has the option to fix the housing problem but to date has chosen not to do so instead of trying to demonize those who simply follow the rules.

You know, it's just easier for them to target players because they can attack them directly here, something they can't do about SE in any way.
They can cry about it there, but they know that it will fall in a deaf hear and that the devs do what they want to do, while getting answers from other players here is way easier and they can vent that way.
And you should know that this kind is only good at attacking, and even more say stuff like "yeah it must be like that" while if they were the ones having multiples houses they would not speak about it at all and stay hidden, it's always like that.
Easy to blame when you're the one that has nothing, wont say anything if you're the one that have the stuff.

[Darthgummibear]

No I'm not thank you for agreeing.



Can't handle it? Don't presuppose how I feel about comments like yours.

You still haven't answered this question directly

"Is it wrong to own more than one on different servers too? Should people check with you first to be sure what they do when following the rules is OK? SE had the the option to limit one house per account with the new rules and they chose not to."

Maybe you should direct your comments/ethical morality and outrage at SE who has the option to fix the housing problem but to date has chosen not to do so instead of trying to demonize those who simply follow the rules.

They aren't the one blaming everyone but themselves for their choices.

[FusiaRain]

Or just remove housing for fcs and make them use the islands with at top tier 450 plots on the fc island for the players. let players who get the non island plots if they want.


Make islands that are instance zones that fcs can buy the right to have plots/expand zones on the island for fc members. Have a community in an instance zone ran by fcs. Then allow them to build a tavern for non fc members who want to hang out.

^proplem solved with a simple use of what we already have easy.