Housing crisis

[FusiaRain]

Thing is, game did not wait for you to put up housing, and for a long time there were a ton of avalaible plots on servers no one wanted.
How can you blame someone for buying multiples plots when absolutly no one wanted it back then ? And on what base should they give up now ?
That's easy to cry nowadays, but the housing situation wasn't like that at all when it came out and during the few first years of it.

Using your logic if someone is being lazy and standing in aoes I can insult them as much as I want since noone else will be honest with them. I love half sided logics

[Izscha]

Using your logic if someone is being lazy and standing in aoes I can insult them as much as I want since noone else will be honest with them. I love half sided logics

You can and that's what i do, dont see where you're going there.

[FusiaRain]

You can and that's what i do, dont see where you're going there.

My point is its called common courtesy, and not being a selfish jerk.. Tbh its funny degending it when ppl hate "toxicity"

[Izscha]

My point is its called common courtesy, and not being a selfish jerk.. Tbh its funny degending it when ppl hate "toxicity"

You dont own others anything, you pay your sub like everyone else and in no way you must put up with what others wants.
It's not because today ppl want house that you must give up yours to please strangers you'll never talk to.
There were there when the house was avalaible, they got it and they keep it that's a pretty basic logic.
Must be hard to cry for everything that you dont have and others do because they were there before you.
And i'm not "ppl" i have my own view on stuff, others may dislike insults but i dont have any problem with it whatsoever, you would roast me right there call me all names with everything you could think of i would just laugh and move on, and not reporting you because it seems pointless to me.
Yes ppl like that do exist

[LaylaTsarra]

My point is its called common courtesy, and not being a selfish jerk.. Tbh its funny degending it when ppl hate "toxicity"

People with grandfathered homes aren't selfish jerks. They played by the rules at the time and I might add that alts still can't share houses. You can share a house with your friends but not with yourself that's wonderful and still hasn't been fixed. You want to blame someone you blame SE not the user following the rules by enabling multiple purchases and by not allowing users to share and use their own house. And I might add we are allowed to buy houses on different servers as well. That didn't change with the new rules for 6.1. That is within the rules and many of us with alts have taken advantage of that feature. YOU don't have to like it and YOU do not set the standards for morality here in the least.

SE has set a new set of rules which people should and will follow. If those rules change again in the future it's not on the users now following them who should be chastised and belittled for what they are permitted to do.

[Jojoya]

Thing is, game did not wait for you to put up housing, and for a long time there were a ton of avalaible plots on servers no one wanted.
How can you blame someone for buying multiples plots when absolutly no one wanted it back then ? And on what base should they give up now ?
That's easy to cry nowadays, but the housing situation wasn't like that at all when it came out and during the few first years of it.

It doesn't matter what things were like 5 years ago. What matters is what things are like now.. The player base has been growing much faster the last few years compared to the initial growth in ARR and HW. It's doubled just in the last 18 months and yet during that time we've only had 3 new wards with subdivisions added.

Most players aren't trying to have houses taken away from those who obtained them fairly under the rules at the time of purchase (though I'll admit there are a vocal few who ask for it). Even if those houses were taken away, it would be a drop in the bucket compared to existing demand. It would not solve anything.

What we want is for SE to fix the system so every player who wants a house can get one as long as they meet the purchase requirements and have the gil. That cannot happen with the current ward system, especially if the FFXIV player base continues to grow as it has in the last 3 years. The active player population has doubled in size during that time, and we don't know how many new and returning players are going to add to the numbers once Endwalker launches.

We want the system to serve all the players, not just the few blessed by RNG.

[Izscha]

It doesn't matter what things were like 5 years ago. What matters is what things are like now.. The player base has been growing much faster the last few years compared to the initial growth in ARR and HW. It's doubled just in the last 18 months and yet during that time we've only had 3 new wards with subdivisions added.

Most players aren't trying to have houses taken away from those who obtained them fairly under the rules at the time of purchase (though I'll admit there are a vocal few who ask for it). Even if those houses were taken away, it would be a drop in the bucket compared to existing demand. It would not solve anything.

What we want is for SE to fix the system so every player who wants a house can get one as long as they meet the purchase requirements and have the gil. That cannot happen with the current ward system, especially if the FFXIV player base continues to grow as it has in the last 3 years. The active player population has doubled in size during that time, and we don't know how many new and returning players are going to add to the numbers once Endwalker launches.

We want the system to serve all the players, not just the few blessed by RNG.

I dont disagree with that, at all while i clearly dont care about housing in the first place.
My answer was only to the one i quoted and was aggresive towards someone that just said that they got 3 houses, and i know a ton of ppl that did the same back at when it was possible.
Blame SE all you want, but not the players who played fair and square.

[FusiaRain]

I dont disagree with that, at all while i clearly dont care about housing in the first place.
My answer was only to the one i quoted and was aggresive towards someone that just said that they got 3 houses, and i know a ton of ppl that did the same back at when it was possible.
Blame SE all you want, but not the players who played fair and square.

Wasn't being aggressive, just being honest but if your going to white knight their bs "intention in the same post you brag about 3" you deserver some aggression however I wasnt the only aggression was towards devs

[Izscha]

I have a hard time understanding your "hording it" what do that means in this context ?
And to me being able to report someone that isn't botting/ cheating is a joke, and that's why i never use it.

[Moerdeth]

Why is it that the have's seem to be telling the have nots to stop complaining about something they would like but aren't able to attain to be quiet and stop making your opinion known or requesting change? All we are asking for is a way that everyone can enjoy the content without removing anything from any one of those telling us to be quiet.
Please just let us ask for improvements.
We let everyone keep the houses they own no problem even if you own 3 or 5 homes it doesn't matter to me. I think that an instanced system for individual home owners where they can decorate their own space that you can pick your frontage whether it be waterfront, city, garden, desert,( insert here idea's could be endless for the unique feeling)and take their friends to up to 24 people max for house design comp's, private parties, role play, etc! It opens up crafting, housing items, gathering for items, seed, and gardening, all while saving everyone bag space on furniture items they have been saving in game for when they finally manage to get a home.
Who doesn't want more bag space?
I am not trying to attack anyone who already has a home. Please don't attack me for wanting the same chance to play the way I would like. This also removes the ability for RMT to buy houses and increase the prices like was the case in the past.
This would also add a number of new houses for FC in the housing district as the single players give up their homes during the 45 day away period to continue having common area's, street parties with other FC's, FC housing comp's and take literally nothing from anyone who already owns a plot and wants to keep it.
Is this something you all may think would be agreeable? What is the down side if any?