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    I must apologize for my error on the math. I did screw up those last 2 numbers. Thank you Akiudo. With that said for all the shills in here defending this years long issue, how is the game better by keeping this housing shortage as it is. FFXI had housing for all right out of the gate. This game was made by the same company that has not been able to fix this issue for years at this point. If your internet provider failed to fix an ongoing issue with your internet for years on end would you expect them to fix the issue? If your tv provider failed to provide all the channels you were paying them for would you expect them to fix the issue? I realize that these are not real life issues, but neither are the examples I have provided and yet most of you if you are being honest would likely expect the internet and tv providers to fix the issues with there systems and provide you what you are paying them for without being expected to sit clicking a button for 24 hours multiple times against bots or 3rd party software for a chance at getting some of what you are paying them for, right? So why is expecting this game developer you pay a subscription each month not expected to fix the issues their platform has in a timely manner just like any other industry?
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    I wish apartments have a small balcony/garden where you can put 5-10 outdoor items. Some quests give you outdoor items, which you, unless you own a house, have no way to display it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Momo_Kozuki View Post
    I wish apartments have a small balcony/garden where you can put 5-10 outdoor items. Some quests give you outdoor items, which you, unless you own a house, have no way to display it.
    What apartments need are sizes with penthouse size being around a meduim/large house
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moerdeth View Post
    I must apologize for my error on the math. I did screw up those last 2 numbers. Thank you Akiudo. With that said for all the shills in here defending this years long issue, how is the game better by keeping this housing shortage as it is. FFXI had housing for all right out of the gate. This game was made by the same company that has not been able to fix this issue for years at this point. If your internet provider failed to fix an ongoing issue with your internet for years on end would you expect them to fix the issue? If your tv provider failed to provide all the channels you were paying them for would you expect them to fix the issue? I realize that these are not real life issues, but neither are the examples I have provided and yet most of you if you are being honest would likely expect the internet and tv providers to fix the issues with there systems and provide you what you are paying them for without being expected to sit clicking a button for 24 hours multiple times against bots or 3rd party software for a chance at getting some of what you are paying them for, right? So why is expecting this game developer you pay a subscription each month not expected to fix the issues their platform has in a timely manner just like any other industry?
    Thing is, this is not what you're paying for in the first place, this content does exist as secondary stuff, but it's not what they're selling to you first.
    What they're selling and what you're paying for is that you can log in on their servor and enjoy what's there, but nowhere it's written that since you pay a sub you're entilted to have X or Y.
    If tommorow they decide to delete a part of the game, it's their right and they dont need to tell you anything about it, if you're unhappy you do not sub anymore and move on, if you keep enjoying it you continue to pay to play.
    But none of the content of the game is entilted to you because you pay, you pay the entry ticket nothing more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Izscha View Post
    Thing is, this is not what you're paying for in the first place, this content does exist as secondary stuff, but it's not what they're selling to you first.
    What they're selling and what you're paying for is that you can log in on their servor and enjoy what's there, but nowhere it's written that since you pay a sub you're entilted to have X or Y.
    If tommorow they decide to delete a part of the game, it's their right and they dont need to tell you anything about it, if you're unhappy you do not sub anymore and move on, if you keep enjoying it you continue to pay to play.
    But none of the content of the game is entilted to you because you pay, you pay the entry ticket nothing more.
    I always equate that to a theme park ticket - six flags for example. You pay for access to the park, youre not entitled to be able to ride every single ride especially when theres lines and hundreds of other people vying for their rides.
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    I disagree, you are paying for access to all the game has to offer. You have the same accessibility to all of the content, just like every other player. If you have completed all of the requirements in game to access this feature in game, but the developer has not provided enough space for the subscribers to access what they have worked to open up then the developer has failed to provide the service you are paying for. I am sorry but you are wrong. And the fact that this is your position makes it feel like you work for the company and are trying to defend their interests in this problem.
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    Last edited by Moerdeth; 11-26-2021 at 02:49 AM.

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    Except there are no lines, only limited servers because the developer has not maintained their infrastructure in a way that provides enough room for all of their subscribers.
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    That's not what i believe, that's the facts and that's what you did agree on when you did accept the ToS in the first place, go ahead and read what you did agree on, you accepted that like everyone else.
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    Obviously not a fix but no more "clicking your mouse a billion times". So that's good. Also no one can "swoop" in and "Steal" the plot. Even Relocation is nerfed, you have to enter the "Lottery" to Relocate. It's going to be a lot better but still bad.

    FFXIV Wiki Player Housing link

    As of patch 6.1 a new lottery system will be implemented. Pre-expansion information provided on 11/6/21 Live Letter LXVII:

    Character must have 1 class/job at level 50 minimum & 2nd LT with their GC.

    Only 1 plot per account per server. (Your main can have a plot but that DQ's any of your alts on that same server.)

    A deposit will be required. This is returned in full if you lose the lottery drawing (you have 90 days to get your funds back).

    You can only have 1 lottery entry active at a time, select your plot wisely; you cannot withdraw once entered. - This is an excellent idea.

    Free Company must have minimum of 4 members and be at least rank 6

    A FC new member cannot be assigned the option to buy a plot or be changed to FC Leader to buy a plot.

    The lottery period itself will last several days. Select the placard to enter the lottery to get your entry number. - This is excellent because there is no "rushed" feelings, like you are going to miss out if you stay logged in longer. It's a more casual feeling.

    Land Acquisition Period will also last several days to allow the winner time to claim the possession of the land.

    You need to return to the placard to see if you won or not.

    If the winner does NOT claim their land they will only receive 50% of the gil back.

    If there is no winner or the plot isn't claimed, the lottery starts over.

    There was a mention in the previous live letter that if the plot is relinquished after the drawing and sale is complete that there is a penalty incurred but this was not discussed again.

    Again, please note: Relocation does NOT by-pass this lottery system!! - I love this as well.

    Like I said this is not "fix to the issue" just a long needed band-aid. Way better then before. The main issue is we need more housing "Tabs".
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    Last edited by Eric_Riot; 11-26-2021 at 02:59 AM. Reason: grammar

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    Well, part of this problem will probably be solved in Feb 2022 when the new Oceanic servers launch.

    https://www.siliconera.com/ffxiv-new-materia-oceanic-data-center-opens-in-february/
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