We don't need anymore gil sinks

[Deceptus]

Lowkey sounds like you didn't know what you were doing if it takes you a year to make 3M.

Seriously, barely trying and making 100K a day is 3 mil in a month.

[Warlyx]

i find it funny that for example :

duty roulette leveling role rewards are what 2k seals 10k gil and some exp ....10k is nothing

on challenge log ....that rewards nowadays are pocket change at best.

a boost on those come EW are needed.

[Rein_eon_Osborne]

STILL. Not. Easy.

That's more like a resource & spending problem to me.

DoH/DoL will not guarantee you 100% constant stream of profit. Market is ever fluctuating. The most notably ridiculous profit you can get from DoH is by taking advantage of day 1 new crafted gears because they can sell for millions. But the price tend to only stay that high for few days so for those crafters you've seen in MB, they are most likely had been prepping for that moment. I feel it more like an actual job than a gameplay so I leveled DoH/DoL not to gain profit, but to reduce the amount I spend considerably.

Occasionally I may notice some crafted ingredients in the market was sitting a bit higher than usual: time for a profit making moment, however small it is! These are the ones with materials that can be farmed with retainers' venture. Send them out, receive the materials, craft them yourself, then sell them in smaller bundles. Players dislikes x99 bundle sellers. You can bait people to buy your material in higher price if you're selling just enough amount of what they need. And if these crafted ingredients are annoying to make, you can guarantee there will be some soul who will buy it. Some desynth'ed materials also provide these materials. Do not ignore them. Check the price before throwing them out. You can mark favorite these materials next time for easier price check, too.

Personally, I've moved away from DoH/DoL almost entirely. Only daily map really bothered me enough to get me that daily 35k - 50k gil. If you may, you might want to consider other options such as Eurekan bunnies (particularly Pyros and Hydatos) & BSF cluster/frag farm. These two are two major reasons I went past my first 100M profit mark in the span of few months... and I wasn't even playing for longer than a two-third of year at that point. Since you admitted for 'no lifing' the game, then you have the advantage over one best currency: time. Abuse it to your advantage.

i find it funny that for example :

duty roulette leveling role rewards are what 2k seals 10k gil and some exp ....10k is nothing

on challenge log ....that rewards nowadays are pocket change at best.

a boost on those come EW are needed.

Those 'nothings' are part of the "lol the game rains you with currencies". So no, they are not 'nothing'. They add up over time... unless one spend more than they make, then that's another entirely different story.

[Skivvy]

Ahhh yes, the ol' "if someone has something that I don't, they've obviously cheated/exploited their way to getting it" explanation. Always sound reasoning. I'm going to assume this is a troll thread, but for those who may actually be looking for some ideas, here ya go:

-Send out your retainers as much as possible. Look up items that sell fast on the MB, or do quick ventures and sell/turn in any green items to your Grand Company for seals.
-Greed on every item you see drop in dungeons. Turn those into your GC for points and buy items to sell
-Do some roulettes/FATEs
-Complete the MSQ
-Don't let your Poetics/other seals sit at max. Poetics can be turned into gardening soil which sells fast.
-If you have a DoH/DoL, do the weekly custom-deliveries for seals and buy items to sell.
-If you have a DoL, farm up a daily map to sell (average 40k minimum daily on my server)
-If you DON'T have a DoL, I'd recommend leveling one to at least 50 so you can farm a lower-level map. Some still sell for a decent chunk.
-Do weekly Wondrous Tails (can snag another map at the very least for doing content you can solo/most likely would do weekly anyway)

I really don't like to actively farm gil, but I'm sitting at a nice comfy amount to where I don't need to worry about what I buy, and that's mainly been accumulated from the lazy methods listed above.

[ItMe]

DoH/DoL will not guarantee you 100% constant stream of profit.

They do if you lean into Leves~

[Bobby66]

Sitting on 92 mil with 9 days 13 hours and 25 minutes. It is not hard to make money in this game, just put in a little effort. On a new server / DC to play with friends.

[Rokke]

..I now have 3 million, that 3 million took an entire year. It is NOT as easy as people say it is.

If you're nolife-ing the game and can only manage 3 mil across a year you aint doing the nolife bit right

[Jojoya]

Square Enix does not understand economics. Supply and demand are all well and good, but they are not looking at inequality. Adding gil sinks like more housing and removing gil from activities like levequests are only going to hurt consumers. Here's the thing: everyone who has more than 100 million gil in this game are either botting/cheating or exploiting everyone else in the economy, just like in real life. But in real life we can actually tax those people, and transfer it to programs that aid the poor, like Social Security. We don't do that in FF14, because it is modeled after a laissez-faire system. So what happens when gil becomes harder and harder to get and things get harder and harder to buy? New players and people not interested in botting and exploiting everyone else in the economy just cannot do anything that requires gil, like buying mansions. Also, the rich players in this game will tell you how they got rich easily without a lot of effort. That is a total lie: they are either players from ARR or Heavensward that inherited a lot of wealth back then and coasted on the gil inflation, or they bot/exploit other players (such as undercutting on the market board every minute). What we need is not a gil sink. It's a gil transfer system. No one likes having their gil taken away, so we need incentives for rich players to give their gil to new players. For example, giving 1M gil to a sprout that is above Lv20 would give them an extra step in a relic or something. We also need to have more gil fountains for poor players. Roulette rewards should be doubled or even tripled for sprouts. This game does not have a gil inflation issue. This game has an inequality issue.

This sounds like some serious troll bait with all the talk of handouts.

You don't have to bot to get gil. You don't have to use RMT to get gil. You don't need other players giving you handouts to get gil.

You do need to actively play the game instead of hanging out at the Limsa or Ul'dah or Gridania Aetherytes. The game throws gil at you for doing just about any content other than PvP or Gold Saucer.

As the saying goes, time is money. If you're wasting the time then you won't be making money.

I actually agree on this. I wanted a house. Everyone kept saying how easy it was to get gil if I leveled crafting.
Leveling crafting took time, patience, and a lot of the gil I had from the MSQ to where I was down to 0.
Finally though I max'd them all to 80 along with DoL (except fishing but whatever.)

..I now have 3 million, that 3 million took an entire year. It is NOT as easy as people say it is. Yeah you can make a couple hundred with roulettes and dailies to be able to afford gear or maybe 1 expensive glam item.

But a mansion? I'll say it's never gonna happen for me, the small cottage I got is about all I'll ever afford at this rate. And yes, I'm crafting and doing extremes for feathers and whatnot. Still not easy.

And before you say it. I have 5 retainers, and I nolife the game only time I'm not playing is when sleeping/eating/bathroom.
STILL. Not. Easy.

There's no way you've only made three million gil while no-lifeing the game. I've got a character I only play a few hours a week that takes in that much a month selling DoH quest items for 1500-6000 each.

Are you certain you haven't been spending what you've earned unwisely instead and so that's why you think you're not making much?

I'm fairly easy to find within the Crystal hunt community if you want some suggestions on making - and just as important saving - gil.

[Rinhi]

it literally is a troll thread
by a rmt bot account
like several new topics that were posted in the last few days

[Jojoya]

it literally is a troll thread
by a rmt bot account
like several new topics that were posted in the last few days

Why would you assume it's a RMT bot instead of a common troll?

A RMT bot account wouldn't be asking for a redistribution of wealth because that would cut into their RMT profits.