We don't need anymore gil sinks

[Aelin_Ashryver]

I made well over 90mill without leve's and without cheating. The first million gil was the hardest and after that it was a breeze if you bother to learn how to make money.

[Caurcas]

Next they are going to purpose a planned economy under the cover of "sprouts' rights".

[Rinhi]

Why would you assume it's a RMT bot instead of a common troll?

A RMT bot account wouldn't be asking for a redistribution of wealth because that would cut into their RMT profits.

because he's trolling? they know SE isn't going to do anything about it anyway and they know how many people care about it, as shown by this very thread considering how many people responded in earnest instead of ignoring it
all their accounts have every crafter and gather besides fisher levelled, one to two combat classes, in solo FCs or FCs with other RMT accounts, usually a roe or hroth, sometimes a highlander and if they're feeling spicy, a catboy or femra, some of the accounts being fresh, while some are from 2018 even, always talking about FOTM or controversial ""issues"" because people can't help but respond

[Izscha]

because he's trolling? they know SE isn't going to do anything about it anyway and they know how many people care about it, as shown by this very thread considering how many people responded in earnest instead of ignoring it
all their accounts have every crafter and gather besides fisher levelled, one to two combat classes, in solo FCs or FCs with other RMT accounts, usually a roe or hroth, sometimes a highlander and if they're feeling spicy, a catboy or femra, some of the accounts being fresh, while some are from 2018 even, always talking about FOTM or controversial ""issues"" because people can't help but respond

I did answer to this thread and i did know it was a troll / bait of some sort for a reason.
Everyone will click on it, bait are powerful to bring ppl's attention on it and i do know that some do really think like that / do struggle to get gils and that's why i talked about me and how i do make my gils.
Even if the start is troll based, nothing stops us, others, to help ppl that need it with our answers.

[kaynide]

Finally though I max'd them all to 80 along with DoL (except fishing but whatever.)

..I now have 3 million...
Yeah you can make a couple hundred with roulettes and dailies to be able to afford gear or maybe 1 expensive glam item.

Still not easy.

I have 5 retainers, and I nolife the game
STILL. Not. Easy.

This is meant to help you out, not criticize. How much you are in game is largely irrelevant if you're not being productive with the time. I'm going to assume you are being productive doing things that aren't netting you much gil- so I want to help give you some options.


If your goal is sincerely to really make money, and you've never seen more than 3m in a year, then let me suggest some things:

1) Most importantly, cut your frivolous spending. You don't need the latest fashions, nor do you need to buy any gear from the market board, at all. You can buy some filler spots to get you enough iLVL for the next dungeon, but you shouldn't be blasting your money on anything "current patch". It'll be there 2 months later, and by then there will probably be free alternatives via dungeons/raids.

2) Use your retainers more wisely if you aren't already: Do the daily 18 hour ones. These guarantee allagan coins (something like 3-4,000 gil worth per retainer per day). The actual drops they bring are mostly junk otherwise, but you might get lucky with a minion you can sell. This is an average 20-30k per week per retainer.

3) Trade in those allagan coins weekly to Doma. This is a solid 20,000k profit per week. for minimal work.

--These 3 are the absolute minimum you could be making, and require at most..15 minutes of time, per day. If you have more time to dedicate to gil, see below:--

4) Find a high selling leve to trade in (like coffee biscuits)

5) Sell in-demand resources like Treasure Maps, or materials that are currently used for the newest fashions. Whatever is current usually sells.

6) Engage in good 'ol market flipping. There are often things on the board that you can make and sell quickly (furnishings for example), or that are on sale on the board cheaper than NPCs will pay. Alternatively, there are things NPCs will sell for cheaper than the market board. You can buy from one and sell to the other with a hefty profit. I made my first million buying stuff like Candles in Limsa, or random crafting gear in the Black Shroud and selling on the market board way back in 2.0.

7) Literally just play the game. Do daily things like roulettes. Get weekly challenge bonuses. Play games at Gold Saucer.

8) Most time intensive: Level an alt to get retainers, then level that alt's fisher to 80 via Ocean Fishing, then level the alt's retainers to 80 fishermen. As long as a friend can unsync run you through dungeons you can trade the drops into ventures, or level the alt up enough to solo run for drops. 1 Gubal Library on my alt is enough for a week's worth of ventures.
It costs you zero extra money to have as many as 8 characters on the same server (if you pay 3 months at a time instead of monthly).

*Sidenote because you mentioned it: for retainers, setting them all to fishing is the easiest/best way to have retainers at 80 pumping out items with minimal equipment.. for me anyway.

[Sotaris]

Meanwhile I spent last month or two casually making Coffee Biscuits and made aprx 100M on that alone.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I'm at around 57 million with zero effort just because there's been nothing I've absolutely had to buy in a while. Mostly I just desynth dungeon drops and throw it on the MB.

[Thurmnmurmn]

Meanwhile I spent last month or two casually making Coffee Biscuits and made aprx 100M on that alone.

Simple math can prove you're exaggerating like crazy there. You make around 3.25M per month with biscuits.
Which is still a solid money making method. Getting nerfed next week with EW though.

[KittyKet]

5) Sell in-demand resources like Treasure Maps, or materials that are currently used for the newest fashions. Whatever is current usually sells.

Treasure Maps are a great way to make gil. I get them all the time when gathering so I just sell the ones I don't want for myself (or can't carry anyway). Easy 44k gil I made yesterday. Gathering raw mats like logs, stones, and ore is also great. Even though I can gather those things myself, sometimes I'm just way too lazy and just want to craft the thing already so I'll hit up the MB. And crystals!! Crystals will always be in demand, you can't craft without them.

[Sotaris]

Simple math can prove you're exaggerating like crazy there. You make around 3.25M per month with biscuits.
Which is still a solid money making method. Getting nerfed next week with EW though.

I sell them on the MB, I don't use my allowances after I got Honest Gillionaire title. I make around 2-3M per day doing that on my server -- or rather I did. Market kinda died down few weeks ago.