Increasing number of players using 3rd party tools

[Kandraxx]

Honestly, the addon that consolidates combos is the single best thing out there.

There is no excuse, for it not to be standard behavior in the first place. There is no thought process and no decisions involved with the melee combos. There is no situation, where you would want to hit the same button again, or skip 2 and go to straight to 3 in the 1-2-3 combos.

It doesn’t matter if I sort the buttons to 123 or ERT or whatever layout you use, instead of just hitting 111 or E E E. There is not a single ounce of skill floor or skill ceiling involved, but it stops my hand from tiring and aching.

It’s the same as if I gave you a super mario bros 1, but with 3 buttons for jump instead one and only one of them works at a time in a linear fashion. It wouldn’t add any depth or difficulty to the game at all.

[Izscha]

Honestly, the addon that consolidates combos is the single best thing out there.

There is no excuse, for it not to be standard behavior in the first place. There is no thought process and no decisions involved with the melee combos. There is no situation, where you would want to hit the same button again, or skip 2 and go to straight to 3 in the 1-2-3 combos.

It doesn’t matter if I sort the buttons to 123 or ERT or whatever layout you use, instead of just hitting 111 or E E E. There is not a single ounce of skill floor or skill ceiling involved, but it stops my hand from tiring and aching.

There is a reason it's that way, it's not based on what you want, but what you do press that matters and you can drop it because everyone can fails.
That's like saying why bother doing combos in fighting games you just have to press one button to do the same, and yeah in certain games the 1111 version do exist, but it does less damage because it's braindead to do and you reward the players that do the same combos but the regular way.
Removing it with mods is cheating, if you're fine with cheating good for you, but dont try to make it look like it's legit.
And dont say that you do NEVER drop the 1-2-3, it would be a blatant lie.

[Deceptus]

And dont say that you do NEVER drop the 1-2-3, it would be a blatant lie.

With the added leeway they introduced it makes it REALLY hard to drop it. Its something like 12-15 seconds.

[Izscha]

With the added leeway they introduced it makes it REALLY hard to drop it. Its something like 12-15 seconds.

It was more about how one can't be perfect all the time and after hours and hours of trying you can drop it and it fucks ur whole rotation timing, that's not that uncommon.
Obviously you can have 99 % of the time doing it right, but even something as dumb as 1-2-3 you can missinput or tought you'll need something else and press the wrong key.
If it's just 1 1 1 1 1 1 you dont have to worry about it, so you have and advantage on others hence the cheating part, the moment you gain an advantage on others using tools it's cheating to my eyes.

If some do really need it something like i talked earlier i would not mind, you make a 111 button for ppl that dont want to press anything else BUT you loose potency on each part since it's easier, or you can do the regular way and have all the potency on each different keys so you reward ppl using the harder way.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

Honestly, the addon that consolidates combos is the single best thing out there.

There is no excuse, for it not to be standard behavior in the first place. There is no thought process and no decisions involved with the melee combos. There is no situation, where you would want to hit the same button again, or skip 2 and go to straight to 3 in the 1-2-3 combos.

It doesn’t matter if I sort the buttons to 123 or ERT or whatever layout you use, instead of just hitting 111 or E E E. There is not a single ounce of skill floor or skill ceiling involved, but it stops my hand from tiring and aching.

It’s the same as if I gave you a super mario bros 1, but with 3 buttons for jump instead one and only one of them works at a time in a linear fashion. It wouldn’t add any depth or difficulty to the game at all.

Dragoon has two different combos that both start with the same "1".
Samurai has three different combos that start with the same "1".
Ninja has an alternate "3".
MNK has 3 sets of 3, multiple ways to change the order, and boiling it down to what you're describing would absolutely destroy the job.

If you play melee only by hitting "1...2...3" you're playing it wrong.

[Izscha]

Dragoon has two different combos that both start with the same "1".
Samurai has three different combos that start with the same "1".
Ninja has an alternate "3".
MNK has 3 sets of 3, multiple ways to change the order, and boiling it down to what you're describing would absolutely destroy the job.

If you play melee only by hitting "1...2...3" you're playing it wrong.

It works for tanks and only tanks, melee dps got more than that sure.
And even as a drk, in stuff like TEA if we got too much dps and are waiting for the P3 to P4 transition i dont need the 3 part, i only 1-2 to build my mana back and start p4 with 10 k.
So even for tanks in certains fights it would be bad to use what he gots.

[PredatoryCatgirl]

It works for tanks and only tanks, melee dps got more than that sure.

Honestly, I can see it for tanks. At least the ones I've played significantly. WAR would need an extra button for its alternate "3" but GNB would be fine.