A lot of the main issues with SCH are not being addressed with Endwalker

[Hozomeen]

DO NOT delete energy drain, the last few times that happened showed why that's a terrible idea. It literally breaks the job without an aetherflow stack dump

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you've also missed the biggest problem which is common amongst all healers: there's nothing to do except spam broil when there is no need to heal

Current Energy Drain could be replaced by a more interesting stack dump. It's pretty bad how Energy Drain *competes* with healing, even more so now that you can weave the third Energy Drain for free, too. It makes it feel super super bad every time you actually have to heal. Shouldn't be that way on a healing job.

I think a better way to dump stacks would be a Further Ruin type of system that upgrades the next Ruin II you do for every Aetherflow heal you use, stacking up to 3 times. This would be more engaging because you could consider using those stacks in a targeted manner for the weave space or movement.

[Recon1o6]

Current Energy Drain could be replaced by a more interesting stack dump. It's pretty bad how Energy Drain *competes* with healing, even more so now that you can weave the third Energy Drain for free, too. It makes it feel super super bad every time you actually have to heal. Shouldn't be that way on a healing job.

I think a better way to dump stacks would be a Further Ruin type of system that upgrades the next Ruin II you do for every Aetherflow heal you use, stacking up to 3 times. This would be more engaging because you could consider using those stacks in a targeted manner for the weave space or movement.

that doesnt change the problem of what to use the aetherflow on when you don't need to heal. overhealing is just a waste of resources. The ruin 4 system is a good idea though, synergy between doing healing and damage is something that the healers lack

[Hozomeen]

that doesnt change the problem of what to use the aetherflow on when you don't need to heal. overhealing is just a waste of resources. The ruin 4 system is a good idea though, synergy between doing healing and damage is something that the healers lack

Well, I don't see a difference really. When you're dumping stacks, you're "wasting" the stack either way. Overheal or ED. In terms of healing, I mean. But the Ruin IV way of doing it wouldn't lead to your method of dumping stacks strictly competing with your method of using them for heals.

Like when you don't need to heal, you'd just overheal a Lustrate and bank the Further Ruin stack for movement/weaving/burst window. With my proposed system.

[OtakuSempai]

Well, I don't see a difference really. When you're dumping stacks, you're "wasting" the stack either way. Overheal or ED. In terms of healing, I mean. But the Ruin IV way of doing it wouldn't lead to your method of dumping stacks strictly competing with your method of using them for heals.

Like when you don't need to heal, you'd just overheal a Lustrate and bank the Further Ruin stack for movement/weaving/burst window. With my proposed system.

I really do not understand this community's insistence that overhealing by design is good. Its suggestions like these is why tanks are 1-2-3 melee dps and healers are 1 button snooze fests.

Dumping lustrate to get rid of stacks will encourage bad habits and further the divide between good and bad players. You want to design the job to be intuitive so that's its obvious what the optimal play is, that's not how you do it.

[FusionSamurai]

that doesnt change the problem of what to use the aetherflow on when you don't need to heal. overhealing is just a waste of resources. The ruin 4 system is a good idea though, synergy between doing healing and damage is something that the healers lack

Sage has literally this, but nobody is complaining about it. Sage has to burn all their stacks for mana, optimizing them to get the best healing.