Quote Originally Posted by WaxSw View Post
True about physis 2, I'll edit that

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This would be a perfectly valid point if SCH needed more tools to match what SGE does, but SCH can use more tools and achieve greater results. You are also ignoring the fact that Zoe's "versatility" is actually a problem, because Deployment will always be available when you need it, but Zoe has other uses, and one (Pneuma) happens to be an amazing one. You are talking about DPS losses, efficiency and subotimal usages, but SGE is the healer that is hurt the most by giving up a damage GCD (330 DPS loss and 170 heal loss) and you are giving up a zoe'd Pneuma which might have important consequences.

On the other hand, SCH has four different skills it can use to boost shields, which means you don't even have to necessarily use Recitation and that something is always available.

I disagree, Sch has neat tools and high heal power but in raw healing capabilities doesn't have as many as Sge giving the latter an edge and if we consider efficiency is not even a contest (Sch has 9 ogcd heals + embrace and out of those 9 4 are dps losses unless recitation is used, in which case only 2 vs Sge which has 11 dps neutral heals + kardia), for every heal or cooldown Sch has and its stronger you can name one in Sge's toolkit that is either stronger than its Sch counterpart, more efficient and/or more versatile, quick examples physis vs whispering dawn, Zoe vs Deplo, all the non recitation aetherflow heals vs addersgall heals...
SGE is more efficient (but this was never the topic), but it does not have higher raw healing capabilities, especially considering how Addersgall works, which gives less flexibility than Aetherflow.

Dawn is less powerful than Physis, but more flexible because it can reach people SGE can't reach. Blessing is on paper stronger than Holos but it will probably end up having the same potency because of pet scaling (unless it is even closer to 1:1 than it seems now). Still, Blessing is again more flexible because of the fairy. Then we can compare Lustrate and Druochole which are the same skill, but SCH can spam then back to back for some quick spot healing, something SGE can't do unless you store 3 stacks of Addersgall, so less flexibility again. Seraph has more potency than Panhaima (and this is without counting Seraphic Veil). Fey Union only needs 3 ticks to have more potency than Haima (if we want to compare them because level 70 skills). If you want to compare it to Soteria, Union is way, way more flexible. Even when comparing their ST buffs, Protraction is way more flexible/versatile than Krasis. They both increase healing potency (Krasis being more powerful at this), but Protraction also has the cool implication of letting SCH enhance other people's shields (Shake it off, The blackest night, Divine Veil, Celestial Intersection), further cementing it as the better shield healer.