To Yoshi P, don't worry about it.

[Jadedsins]

Yes the delay is unfortunate, but this is no reason to raise up in arms about it.

You're only making them more stressed out.

I'm confused. Who said anything about raising up?

[DragoAskani]

There is other hobbies, and you're taking this way too personally. When the game is ready its ready.

And how you feel about yourself shouldn't be used as a excuse, you have multiple outlets to relieve that stress and FFXIV isn't the only one.

Who the hell are you to tell anyone how they should feel about anything?

[Kaliesto]

I'm confused. Who said anything about raising up?

Then you need to switch the tone of your comment earlier, I'm saying some people on here seem like they are throwing their frustrations onto them with things like "I used my vacation time for this" and other situations.

That doesn't help them.

[Kaliesto]

Who the hell are you to tell anyone how they should feel about anything?

The way your reacting tells me your taking it way too hard, stop acting so emotional and think about your own behavior.

[Jadedsins]

Then you need to switch the tone of your comment earlier, I'm saying some people on here seem like they are throwing their frustrations onto them with things like "I used my vacation time for this" and other situations.

That doesn't help them.

Ok so what does help them? Because I figure stating something like..it is ok to feel upset and that is normal. Is much better than what you are doing. Telling them that it is just a hobby, or making a thread defending someone that does not really need it, and we had another thread about this also.


All I am saying is, the best way to help the people who are stressed is to be understanding about it. Not devaluing their time by telling them that they can do something else, or it is not worth getting that upset about. The cult of Yoshi P comes out of the woods and bash these people on reddit for being upset about it, and that looks far worse than the people irked for legit reasons.

I try not to use tone because it is hard to get a full grasp through text, but if you want to use tone fine... Your replies come off very patronizing.

[Kaliesto]

Ok so what does help them? Because I figure stating something like..it is ok to feel upset and that is normal. Is much better than what you are doing. Telling them that it is just a hobby, or making a thread defending someone that does not really need it, and we had another thread about this also.


All I am saying is, the best way to help the people who are stressed is to be understanding about it. Not devaluing their time by telling them that they can do something else, or it is not worth getting that upset about. The cult of Yoshi P comes out of the woods and bash these people on reddit for being upset about it, and that looks far worse than the people irked for legit reasons.

I try not to use tone because it is hard to get a full grasp through text, but if you want to use tone fine... Your replies come off very patronizing.

If your life revolves around one thing that isn't healthy.

Full stop.

This isn't devaluing his game and the time he put into it, you're throwing that in there and that goes for the players too onto the player-side of things. I'm saying people who revolve their life around it and acting out is bad.

[Jadedsins]

If your life revolves around one thing that isn't healthy.

Full stop.

This isn't devaluing his game and the time he put into it, you're throwing that in there. I'm saying people who revolve their life around it and acting out is bad.

I'm trying to figure out where you get this leap in logic from. If someone is pretty upset a hobby they have passion for got delayed is now life revolves around it? Gaming is a great stress relief and matters to many people. Just like sports, fishing, or any other hobby. So I'm not sure having passion for something means life revolves around it.

[Kaliesto]

I'm trying to figure out where you get this leap in logic from. If someone is pretty upset a hobby they have passion for got delayed is now life revolves around it? Gaming is a great stress relief and matters to many people. Just like sports, fishing, or any other hobby. So I'm not sure having passion for something means life revolves around it.

Fine I'll meet you half-way on this.

Was I frustrated and many others on here about the delay? YES! As much I want to play Endwalker now I know it can't be changed. I paid back at the end of september for the 60 days, and now knowing I might not have the income available to play it in December soon but things happen and I have accepted that fact.

Other players going beyond frustration? How are these players helping the situation? Not much, and its making the english forums look bad.

[Jadedsins]

Fine I'll meet you half-way on this.

Was I frustrated and many others on here about the delay? YES! As much I want to play Endwalker now I know it can't be changed.

Other players going beyond frustration? How are these players helping the situation? Not much, and its making the english forums look bad.

They are not, and we have a right to call them out on it when they take it too far, but what is too far?

To me talking about it on Twitter, Reddit, or the forums is not taking it too far. It is a way to let out stress, and talk with other people about it.


I cross the line when people attack developers. No amount of passion or stress gives anyone a right to attack people who are working. They are a business, do you think they want to delay? It makes no sense that they would unless they cared about what they want to give. (or in some developments at least a working game.) However, we can clearly see the developers care a lot about the game. So being upset is ok, attacking people no matter what side you are on this..is not.

[Theodric]

I'm not sure why some people make so many assumptions about the posters in this thread. Paying customers are absolutely allowed to express their frustration if a promised service is not delivered in a timely manner.

The expansion being delayed by two weeks isn't the end of the world but it is not the first time that content has been pushed back and some people used precious free time off of work to align with the original release date that can now not be changed.

People order food from restaurants and supermarkets all the time and plan around the expectation that the service will be conducted as planned. It isn't unreasonable to adopt that mentality with other transactions.

Personally I think some free game time or a special item sent through the in-game mail would have been a nice way to truly solidify an apology. That was the approach taken back in ARR when things went awry, so it's interesting that such methods are no longer embraced in the present day.

Perhaps it is something that Yoshi-P and his team can consider moving forward, given that him shedding tears during a Live Letter leads some zealous players to begin attacking anyone who dares offer any criticism, no matter how politely it is worded.