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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
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    BLU will only be "finished" when it can also play as a traditional DoM?
    Is that a definition of "finished" some of us are trying to force on BLU?
    Or have SQEX mentioned they have this in their BLUprints?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    BLU will only be "finished" when it can also play as a traditional DoM?
    Is that a definition of "finished" some of us are trying to force on BLU?
    Or have SQEX mentioned they have this in their BLUprints?
    At this point the most economical use of resources would be to restructure Blue Mage as the dot caster that the game is now missing. Until it can actually be used in relevant content and not just content that I already cleared when it launched and got the rewards from already, it will always be unfinished in my eyes. Square enix has barely said anything about Blue Mage because the job is only a topic of discussion during limited time events.

    It feels no different from a special gacha summon that'll only be around for a couple of weeks or so, if not less time. At least a 5 star summon can be taken into whatever the gacha's core content is. Why should this game which is also lacking a naturey beast tamer type job subject the people who want to play as that to another minigame that will go nowhere when WoW released a beast master in 2004 that can do content with other people normally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    At this point the most economical use of resources would be to restructure Blue Mage as the dot caster that the game is now missing. Until it can actually be used in relevant content and not just content that I already cleared when it launched and got the rewards from already, it will always be unfinished in my eyes. Square enix has barely said anything about Blue Mage because the job is only a topic of discussion during limited time events.

    It feels no different from a special gacha summon that'll only be around for a couple of weeks or so, if not less time. At least a 5 star summon can be taken into whatever the gacha's core content is. Why should this game which is also lacking a naturey beast tamer type job subject the people who want to play as that to another minigame that will go nowhere when WoW released a beast master in 2004 that can do content with other people normally?
    Needing a DoT-focused caster doesn't mean BLU has to fill that niche. You can literally create any job for that spot. Green Mage, Spiritualist, Elementalist are some jobs from FF-adjacent series that could fit the bill all while not turning BLU into something it isn't.
    Seeing as BLU is used as a "Wondrous Tails but as a job", I don't think SE minds that people treat as such. Not like this is new. It's been almost three years now since BLU was announced and we are still talking in these dumb circles.

    Two very different games and two very different approaches to the archetype. Clearly SE sees these niche jobs as more in the vein of other Final Fantasy games than anything WoW-related. BST is likely to be inspired by FFV, FFTA and FFXI than anything Blizzard put out. So... charming random monsters with diversity of traits, collecting and placing them in pens and training them, the whole she-bang. That's a little more complicated than random rangers with generic pets with almost nothing unique or interesting about them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    BLU will only be "finished" when it can also play as a traditional DoM?
    Is that a definition of "finished" some of us are trying to force on BLU?
    Or have SQEX mentioned they have this in their BLUprints?
    That suggestion is pure conjecture bordering on delusion, but it's partly as a result of SE not being more open to share information for certain content like BLU, Ocean Fishing and Gold Saucer. We usually don't hear anything about these topics besides the random "Hey! It's getting randomly updated this coming patch!", but I digress.

    When it comes to BLU, the only "plan" I recall is when Yoshi-P mentioned during an interview pre-ShB of BLU receiving 128 spells followed by (constructive) feedback for the concept. Looks like they'll hit the 128 mark with the level 80 update. So we'll have to wait and see, I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    BLU will only be "finished" when it can also play as a traditional DoM?
    Is that a definition of "finished" some of us are trying to force on BLU?
    Or have SQEX mentioned they have this in their BLUprints?
    Again, though I may disagree in part with Aveyond here, BLU doesn't have to play as a traditional DoM to be capable of traditional content.

    That said, having a certain minimum (which in no way enforces a maximum) of spells pertinent to its role to use matchmaking at a given level would be neither oppressive nor likely to sap BLU's 'creative integrity' or whatever the hell it is that we're supposed to commend its current incredibly lackluster playflow for.

    Nothing about unique skill acquisition or even a huge spell arsenal from which to pick a normal spell count necessitates such poorly designed spells or playflow as BLU has thus far been stuffed with.
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    Last edited by Shurrikhan; 10-29-2021 at 02:42 PM.