Updates to the Prohibited Activities in FINAL FANTASY XIV and Account Penalty Policy

[MaxNeverMaxine]

I generally understand and agree with most of the rules, but I truly believe there's a substantial problem in regards gameplay during duties. Now I will preface this by disclosing the fact that I do not wish for every chatroom in this game to become a "slander-fest" or endorse any kind of toxicity, I quite in fact wish for the opposite outcome, but there's a major flaw in the rules that many people take for granted. I think that might be the fault of the examples, but under offensive expression, inside the key points section, there's a small example that goes as follows:

Example 1
Example of a violation:
"We can only beat [duty/content] by using [something]. You can't do it any other way, so stop doing that!"

Now I can agree that people should not be forcing playstyles on other people, but this example is not realistic. There exist certain duties that require players to do certain things in order to overcome them. I feel this certain rule will be abused in a way to misuse other players time. This can be a mild infuriation for some, but a more serious offense to others.
A leveling roulette generally lasts for about 20-40 minutes, depending on how many players know the dungeon, but if there's a player that is educated in how to complete the dungeon they also have the knowledge on how to fail it, stretching the time to as far as 2 hours!

Let me give you an example:

Player A is playing a tank role queues for a leveling roulette
Player A is paired with player B, a healer role player who has joined the duty for the sole purpose of damaging the enemies instead of healing the party
Player A finds himself in an unskippable group of enemy NPCs, where healing is absolutely necessary in order to overcome this obstacle
Player A calmly suggests to player B that they require healing in order to finish said roulette
Player B calmly rejects player A's suggestion
The duty fails due to the time running out, and both players gain no rewards.

With the newer guidelines, there is nothing that can stop player B from deliberately locking in the other players in the party. Player A could leave the instance, but such a move is against the guidelines. Player A cannot start a dismissal vote, because in the current system, there is no way to dismiss a player because they play a different way, this can lead to an extreme loss of time, which can certainly interfere with many people's gameplay experience, if not their daily lives.

In conclusion, I believe there should be a system that disallows players from deliberately griefing duties/instances, since the game by design requires certain roles to perform certain tasks, therefore require people to perform a certain way.

[Fawkes]

I generally understand and agree with most of the rules, but I truly believe there's a substantial problem in regards gameplay during duties. Now I will preface this by disclosing the fact that I do not wish for every chatroom in this game to become a "slander-fest" or endorse any kind of toxicity, I quite in fact wish for the opposite outcome, but there's a major flaw in the rules that many people take for granted. I think that might be the fault of the examples, but under offensive expression, inside the key points section, there's a small example that goes as follows:

Example 1
Example of a violation:
"We can only beat [duty/content] by using [something]. You can't do it any other way, so stop doing that!"

Now I can agree that people should not be forcing playstyles on other people, but this example is not realistic. There exist certain duties that require players to do certain things in order to overcome them. I feel this certain rule will be abused in a way to misuse other players time. This can be a mild infuriation for some, but a more serious offense to others.
A leveling roulette generally lasts for about 20-40 minutes, depending on how many players know the dungeon, but if there's a player that is educated in how to complete the dungeon they also have the knowledge on how to fail it, stretching the time to as far as 2 hours!

They need to remove Ichorous Ire and Livia's first phase if they're not going to allow that kind of sentence.

[Iscah]

They need to remove Ichorous Ire and Livia's first phase if they're not going to allow that kind of sentence.

I'm pretty sure the issue is the "you're doing it wrong" statement at the end.

Just state the mechanic and let them follow it.

[Fawkes]

I'm pretty sure the issue is the "you're doing it wrong" statement at the end.

Just state the mechanic and let them follow it.

It doesn't read like any sort of insult to me.

"Stop doing ________" is just another way of stating the mechanic.

[Iscah]

It doesn't read like any sort of insult to me.

"Stop doing ________" is just another way of stating the mechanic.

It's not an insult but it's a direct and negative order to the one person.

"Tank needs to hold the slime while DPS pull the lever for the bomb" is not.

[rewd]

It's not an insult but it's a direct and negative order to the one person.

Wow, the horror.

[Iscah]

Wow, the horror.

I'm not saying "the horror", I'm saying that seems to be the logic being applied here.

I think that specific example is somewhat excessive, and one I probably would have overstepped myself, but if that's the line to not be crossed then that's what you need to know to not cross it.

[Fawkes]

It's not an insult but it's a direct and negative order to the one person.

"Tank needs to hold the slime while DPS pull the lever for the bomb" is not.

It just seems like talking normally is against the ToS and you have to say things like a weird robot.

Everyone in the fight already knows who is killing the bomb and who isn't, I don't see how it's any less embarrassing or whatever for the person being told to stop.

[Iscah]

Everyone in the fight already knows who is killing the bomb and who isn't

Evidently somebody doesn't though, or you wouldn't be needing them to stop doing something else.

[Kes13a]

It just seems like talking normally is against the ToS and you have to say things like a weird robot.

I imagine that would depend on what you consider "talking normally". if you normally are insulting and disrespectful, then yes, you are 100% correct, that is against teh ToS