Quote Originally Posted by Cleretic View Post
The argument still holds. Ifrit and his followers in that scene both provide the only mention in the entire game that being tempered protects from other tempering, and the most clear and steadfast evidence that the Warrior of Light is not tempered (namely, that Ifrit can sense tempering and says we're not; first-hand evidence, how about that).

How does this theory hold the former as a gospel truth, while throwing out the latter like yesterday's garbage? Surely, both should be held to an equal standard; either both are true and should be considered as such, or both should be thrown out as invalid evidence. It can't go both ways.



Also, on this subject, it's worth noting that Hydaelyn worship to that degree is actually extremely minor in the game world, and not really held by any external commonality. Not everyone with the Echo worships her; Fordola, Misija, Arenvald and Mikoto never show any indication of believing in her. Not even everyone with the Blessing worships her; Ysayle recognizes that she exists, but DEFINITELY doesn't worship her.

Hydaelyn worship's just a small religion. If you distrust Hydaelyn worship, do you distrust every single religion in the entire game world? Because a huge theme of the game is that doing that is an awful thing that leads to horrible events.
There's also the fact that they deliberately changed Ifrit's dialogue from 1.0 to ARR.

In 1.0, he thinks that a primal has us in their thrall because he cannot temper us. He says that he smells the taint of another on us and suggests Garuda, Titan, or Leviathan. In response to our confusion he brings up the line used in ARR as well about being warned by the Paragons of the Godless blessed.

In ARR, it's his summoner who brings that up and Ifrit who flat out denies it, saying he smells nothing.

This suggests a change in the greater story from 1.0 to ARR in regards to possible tempering by Hydaelyn.