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    Quote Originally Posted by Claire_Pendragon View Post
    Again, im still inclined to think you're trying to act this way intentionally.
    If others are misreading me as engaging in bad faith arguments then I haven't done enough to build enough good will around here.
    Please give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. I'm not here to cause trouble.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ItMe View Post
    If others are misreading me as engaging in bad faith arguments then I haven't done enough to build enough good will around here.
    Please give me the benefit of the doubt on this one. I'm not here to cause trouble.
    I dont believe youre out to cause trouble. I also dont think ill of you, despite saying i dont think youre acting in good faith. (I dont really care if you are or arent honestly) I also dont remember what ppl say on here, and even if i did, sometimes ppl are right, sometimes theyre wrong, sometimes they think clearly, sometimes they dont. I know i sure havent always thought clearly when on the forums.

    I probably come off as aggressive, and if so, i apologize. Not saying I wasnt aggressive, just that I shouldnt be. Any aggression I may have shown, is due to the frustration of the subject matter, and similar issues over decades in MMOs, and sometimes non MMOs. I also didnt care about the fallacy part. I mentioned it, to point something out i feel might not be noticed in the arguments logic. Which was to indirectly bring up the argument about "thinking outside the box(mold)".

    As an unrelated note, but semi related; I thought "Whats the difference of having a limitation for making a class/job, vs having a mold to fit a class/job into?" I thought about this while typing to you. I knew there was a difference, but didnt know how to articulate it, or measure it with any metrics. In the end, I came to the conclusion the difference is the end goal. Trying to "fit inside a mold" mostly focuses on trying NOT to go outside the box. Where as working with limitation, you try to break outside the box, by unconventional methods. But even by this distinction, theres still room to argue "staying in the mold, still allows one to think outside the box", which is still technically true. In short, it really depends on if the developer really wants to be creative or not. So its not that "molds" are inherently "anti creative", but that the likelihood of molds making "non creative outputs" is very high, but not impossible. (Wrong tool for the job, so to speak. And theres some saying about a Master can work with any tool... or something similar. Both apply)
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