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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    Ever think it's a problem going on that in no way get solved and just getting worse over time?
    Nope, so deal with it.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Nope, so deal with it.
    I am dealing. I go out of my way to get a pre made party and try to not use DF.even if it takes 10-20 min. But the problem stay as is. People are not willing to exept the rest of the party are real humans and don't want to talk things out and be nice.
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  3. #123
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    Because we are all going to die one day.
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  4. #124
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    I love how people jump to conclusions.
    And to the people that say they don't MUST do this or that. No one is not even the tank must do biger pulls. The more nice it at the start the more nice the tank be.
    (1)

  5. 10-20-2021 05:19 PM
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    eh whatever

  6. #125
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    Jubei Murata
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    So, I'm not going to read 13 pages of this but I'll just address the original post.

    Game design and reward structure plays a large part in shaping behavior. Frankly, with the exception of high-end content the game is designed to be quickly accessed and completed. The random people you'll almost certainly never see again in the entire time you play the game aren't here to take a journey with you. They have no need to remember you, befriend you, nor you befriend them. They're easily replaceable and so are you. That's matchmaking, and that's why you'll see some NPC greeting like "o/" at the start of a dungeon and no other talk. There isn't much of a social element to duty finder because the social pressures and benefits have been stripped out of the game design.

    So, establishing that you're just some random guy with some random people the question is: if you can run it more efficiently and save yourself some time to move onto the next thing, why wouldn't you? It's just a nice bonus that playing faster (doing your opener, rotation, and ogcds correctly) and pulling more is more fun and engaging gameplay as well.
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  7. #126
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoPuni View Post
    Because everyone is bored playing this boring-combat game which doesn't satisfy you by design.
    I'm still in it for the world and story but anything that has to do with combat is just making me question why I spend time doing it.
    There are other hobbies like hiking, swimming, fishing, traveling, eating out, etc. There are a lot of things to do if one was to ever get burned out with the combat here.
    (1)
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  8. 10-20-2021 08:24 PM
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    bambina

  9. #127
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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsaraTrickstar View Post
    I am dealing. I go out of my way to get a pre made party and try to not use DF.even if it takes 10-20 min. But the problem stay as is. People are not willing to exept the rest of the party are real humans and don't want to talk things out and be nice.
    You're not, actually. If you were, you wouldn't be sticking your fingers in your ear saying 'la-la-la I can't hear you' across 13 pages.
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  10. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    You're not, actually. If you were, you wouldn't be sticking your fingers in your ear saying 'la-la-la I can't hear you' across 13 pages.
    But I do.it don't mean I will change my point of view same as you will not. The point here is not to make you see my point as the only one but to see what people think over all.and I get it.
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  11. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChocoPuni View Post

    I mean, when people talk in dungeons, it is WAY less boring. I go to Overwatch and all Blizzard games because people actually talk there. Even though OW is numb to me now (and I haven't played it that much, it just gets old fast and then everyone stays there for social aspect or "chill"), I still come back to make jokes or be toxic, or actually find someone to talk to.

    Usually it doesn't last, sure. But at least it isn't as dead as a lot of things in FF XIV.
    What's the point of matching me with players who do the same quests I do if nobody cares about any of it? If people skip cutscenes left and right or if dungeons are all quiet? Just give me 3 mobs and more damage, then. More fun...
    Oh absolutely it's less boring, the game just doesn't give you much reason to do it in roulettes which is the content most players do. People actually want the chatter and stuff as evidenced by the fact that talkative people tend to get commendations regardless of anything else. I have a friend who used to play DPS and he got more comms than a DPS normally would just because he talked and joked a lot.

    People do socialize on FF but a lot of it is done through Discord and you have to actively seek it out, and people make their own fun with RP and things like that. Heck, people don't even need an FC to raid so even FCs don't seem very prevalent. I never see random FC invites anymore.
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  12. #130
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    Sturm Churro
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrogDog View Post
    People actually want the chatter and stuff as evidenced by the fact that talkative people tend to get commendations regardless of anything else. I have a friend who used to play DPS and he got more comms than a DPS normally would just because he talked and joked a lot.
    Probably why I am lucky to get one commendation, whether I am healing or tanking. Since I say nothing entering, or leaving. I'd prefer to be out of there as quickly as possible, with no chatter.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 10-21-2021 at 02:12 AM.
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