Has anyone quit healing?

[Reiryuu]

Also, I wanted to respond to a point brought up on the forums earlier that Square Enix may be trying to improve healing requirements specifically for newer Endwalker content... That's absolutely not a substitute on its own if most instances for the main game and three earlier expansions aren't retroactively updated as well, especially with how likely many instance roulettes are with having older content appear. Since it seems extremely unlikely that Square Enix is going to also dramatically increase healing amounts for most of the game's past content, adding more DPS spell variety seems like the easier and more logical solution, with it also being a more fun one in my subjective opinion since I really like trying to optimize damage output alongside healing.

Just adding more to your point, this has been said at the beginning of both Stormblood and Shadowbringers. Then people at the media tour are like "Yeah, guys. It seems that there's more damage going out." but it never really ends up being that way in the end. since during the media tour no one knows the dungeon yet and thus takes more damage than usual. That's about the only time healing while leveling the MSQ is fun. Could this change with the stat squish and perhaps less overall increases between ilvls? Sure... it could... but SE is also scaling mob damage and health, too, so it's far more likely to end up the exact same.

I'm kind of agonizing over what to do come Endwalker. On one hand, I want to get through the story first and I have done so on WHM since 2.0.... but the solo instances and leveling experience on healers is... awful. I've never been a huge fan of scholar, but since SMN piggy backs on it, it has been a tempting alternative... I suppose PLD or DNC are my other options. I'm interested in SGE... but I don't really want to level it from 70-80 before doing the MSQ for Endwalker. ><

[Deceptus]

Then people at the media tour are like "Yeah, guys. It seems that there's more damage going out." but it never really ends up being that way in the end. since during the media tour no one knows the dungeon yet and thus takes more damage than usual.

This is pretty key.

Media tour folks aren't exactly the best there are, they just have a platform. Leveling dungeons have always hit harder than end game dungeons.

Hell, SE had to add Materia to gear and food available for people to beat Titania (NORMAL) at a Fan Expo. That says a lot about the caliber of players.

[Saefinn]

This is pretty key.

Media tour folks aren't exactly the best there are, they just have a platform. Leveling dungeons have always hit harder than end game dungeons.

Hell, SE had to add Materia to gear and food available for people to beat Titania (NORMAL) at a Fan Expo. That says a lot about the caliber of players.

This is so true.

And gear definitely plays a part. When I was levelling SCH during ShB it was around Qitana Ravel I remarked that I was having a good time and actually enjoying myself and felt a little optimistic that maybe they have balanced healing around ShB content. And it's experiences like this that fuel my argument that SCH is fun to play when you healing is pushed more to its potential. It's when I ran Mt Gulg on it that I changed my tone.

And I feel the reasons why is easy to explain. People are in levelling gear, myself included. When I ran Mt Gulg the party was pretty well geared.

I like Titania as a fight, I think it was challenging enough to be interesting for something that's "normal" content.

[Liam_Harper]

Just adding more to your point, this has been said at the beginning of both Stormblood and Shadowbringers. Then people at the media tour are like "Yeah, guys. It seems that there's more damage going out." but it never really ends up being that way in the end. since during the media tour no one knows the dungeon yet and thus takes more damage than usual.

It's the usual problem and the reason why "just make us heal 90% of the time" will never work as a fix for healers. The difference between doing something for the first time with average players and running it in BiS with a skilled group when you know the instance well, is absolutely massive. 90% healing for the inexperienced player is Glare spam for the fully experienced player. 90% healing for the fully experienced player is a dead party for the inexperienced player. Meeting them halfway is a dead party for one and Glare spam for the other at the same time.

All they can do is bump healing up in all content just to the point that the average player finds it challenging, then add dps options so the skilled player isn't bored. It's not a one-or-the-other. They need to add both of these changes.

What annoys me is instead of adding both, they add neither instead. So everyone is bored except people who don't actually like playing healer for the class itself. The people who want to have things to heal? Bored. The people who want to master the class and contribute dps too? Bored. The people who are too lazy to learn a dps and want a class they can do endgame with on 2-3 buttons? Love it.

[AFuzzyMu11in]

It's the usual problem and the reason why "just make us heal 90% of the time" will never work as a fix for healers. The difference between doing something for the first time with average players and running it in BiS with a skilled group when you know the instance well, is absolutely massive. 90% healing for the inexperienced player is Glare spam for the fully experienced player. 90% healing for the fully experienced player is a dead party for the inexperienced player. Meeting them halfway is a dead party for one and Glare spam for the other at the same time.

All they can do is bump healing up in all content just to the point that the average player finds it challenging, then add dps options so the skilled player isn't bored. It's not a one-or-the-other. They need to add both of these changes.

What annoys me is instead of adding both, they add neither instead. So everyone is bored except people who don't actually like playing healer for the class itself. The people who want to have things to heal? Bored. The people who want to master the class and contribute dps too? Bored. The people who are too lazy to learn a dps and want a class they can do endgame with on 2-3 buttons? Love it.

I’m not that lazy but. Simple rotations plus fast Qs plus the ability to heal myself whenever or others makes for an enticing job.