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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    I'm not sure how DR is even relevant to this conversation. DR has no trash and no possibility of wall to wall pulls. I was farming memories in DR a couple of weeks ago, and runs were taking about a half hour. I can't even remember a single wipe in my runs. The "decent" players who you're talking about prefer to run with each other because they've spent hours outside of DR faming essences. Their runs are taking just as long, but they've front loaded that time into essence farming and manual group finding. More power to them. I can't say I've ever been bored in DR.
    Essence farming takes no more than 30 minutes. Or they're simply buying Fragments off the Marketboard. Either way, the extra time spent isn't remotely comparable. I've ran four DRs with a premade PF in the same span of time DF took to complete it once. The decent players decided they were done getting leeched off and made their own incredibly fast alternative. Which does to show how incredibly shortsighted the whole Essence system is from a design perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronduwil View Post
    Right back at you. If you want to play with speed runners, then do that instead of queueing for the duty roulette and subjecting a mix of novices and experts to your impatience. I know it's not reasonable to expect that of you, however, for the same reasons it's not reasonable for you to expect that of me. If I could get 50 tomestones at a pop by exclusively running trusts, I would happily do so.
    Except the typical community standard nowadays is medium to large pulls, especially in Expert. Therefore, you're being the outliner and should be expected to use PF.
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    Last edited by ForteNightshade; 10-07-2021 at 01:18 AM.
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