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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    Thalia Beckford
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    If we've got a newbie watching a cutscene, I stick with them outside the arena. If those who ran in can survive without heals until we get there, great. We'll join them when the cutscene is done or the game pulls us in. If not, then they can enjoy the walk of shame back and hopefully have learned something about manners.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    If we've got a newbie watching a cutscene, I stick with them outside the arena. If those who ran in can survive without heals until we get there, great. We'll join them when the cutscene is done or the game pulls us in. If not, then they can enjoy the walk of shame back and hopefully have learned something about manners.
    Veteran players aren't slaves to newbies and you shouldn't encourage that, your action are actually violating grieving of others in the TOS - disruption of gameplay
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Veteran players aren't slaves to newbies and you shouldn't encourage that, your action are actually violating grieving of others in the TOS - disruption of gameplay
    I would disagree and say those that are actively leaving those watching cutscenes behind are the griefers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    I would disagree and say those that are actively leaving those watching cutscenes behind are the griefers.
    The game literally has a feature to skip cutscenes so thats validating its upto players if they wish to skip or not. Also nothing in the TOS actually states players have to wait on others, but causing players to die wilfully in this scenario is grieving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    The game literally has a feature to skip cutscenes so thats validating its upto players if they wish to skip or not. Also nothing in the TOS actually states players have to wait on others, but causing players to die wilfully in this scenario is grieving.
    It would be pretty hard to prove someone just watching a cutscene or opening a loot chest is willingly causing others to die. Multiple AFK's in the middle of a boss fight? Then yeah.
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    Willig Rowde
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xaruko_Nexume View Post
    It would be pretty hard to prove someone just watching a cutscene or opening a loot chest is willingly causing others to die. Multiple AFK's in the middle of a boss fight? Then yeah.
    That's never what they were saying. Now you're just being disingenuous.
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    Ronduwil Thaliakson
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    The game literally has a feature to skip cutscenes so thats validating its upto players if they wish to skip or not. Also nothing in the TOS actually states players have to wait on others, but causing players to die wilfully in this scenario is grieving.
    This is clearly done with the expectation that players will be considerate and wait. We know this because of the change in the MSQ that disabled cut scene skipping. In most cases, cut scenes are short enough that the majority of players can keep their pants on long enough to let the others catch up. When it became problematic, SE took matters into their own hands and now we're all stuck watching a half hour worth of cut scenes, even if every single member of the group has already seen them. Please don't dare SE to force us to be polite. We've already seen that they can and will do it when provoked.
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    C'erise Vanesse
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Veteran players aren't slaves to newbies and you shouldn't encourage that, your action are actually violating grieving of others in the TOS - disruption of gameplay
    I'd argue it's more disruptive to pull during someones cutscene than to patiently wait. The person in the cutscene will hear the sounds of the fight, receive a notification, and may feel pressured to exit the cutscene before it's over. On the other hand, the person pulling typically won't die and was already accepting that one person would be locked out of the fight till the cutscene was over (or deliberately was attempting to negatively encourage the new player to exit their cutscene early). What's one more person?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MilkieTea View Post
    I'd argue it's more disruptive to pull during someones cutscene than to patiently wait. The person in the cutscene will hear the sounds of the fight, receive a notification, and may feel pressured to exit the cutscene before it's over. On the other hand, the person pulling typically won't die and was already accepting that one person would be locked out of the fight till the cutscene was over (or deliberately was attempting to negatively encourage the new player to exit their cutscene early). What's one more person?
    You are very wrong here actually. The game allows players to progress how they wish, the game also has built in mechanics that ports players into the arena when the pull is made.

    A player causing one to die in PVE by will when a fight has commenced is grieving by all its merits.
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    Ninuriel Elonir
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    Quote Originally Posted by raelgun View Post
    Veteran players aren't slaves to newbies and you shouldn't encourage that, your action are actually violating grieving of others in the TOS - disruption of gameplay
    I’m guessing it’d be considered a grey area, treating new players with respect won’t get you an instant ban I’m guessing. But even then, it’s too easy to say you noticed the sprout went into a cutscene, know how long it takes and decided to pet the cat or reply to a text message. Which still conveys the same point: that you allow a new player to enjoy their cutscene in peace. As it should be really. I have a very hard time believing that will actually put your account at risk.
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