Dark Knight Megathread

[Aword3213]

devaluating their points, experience, and insights

Where did it come from? what??

But more than often they are results of observations and built up on simple fact

What fact? Stormblood DRK was good but if you like ShB DRK you actually like WAR? Nice fact you have there. Shows your mentality towards new players

I highly doubt you read the post I was responding to. That person dismissed others opinion just because he has longer play time. My first reply was directed to him and was emphasized again at later reply. I'm not sure whether you calling me ignorant multiple times is out of misunderstanding or you simply want to demonize me. I'll just assume it's the former, so I would not call you ignorant. At least please have the courtesy to read the quote I was responding to.

If you really can point out those differences from my examples in my reply towards others, then my point was made. Your comparisons are questionable to me too, though. The way I see it. The more examples you give me, the more I fail to see the similarities. In you response,

you ignore the way of accumulation of these gauges, and how they are spend otherwise – including completely different mechanics of those jobs. E.g. GNB generates "50% of their gauge" every time they finish a combo, and "100%" when using Bloodfest; NINs Mug generates 40%, their combo's 5/GCD, and later 10 on combo finishers. GNB also spends their gauge on a unique ST combo; NIN on oGCDs only, one of them has a long and unusual CD for their burst windows and so on.

Good, you noticed the difference. Let's remove those factors so we can complain they are the same, because that's what you do. Like DRK use both resources, MP and Blood Gauge. Blood Weapon generates both. Carve and Split gives MP resource. Delirium give tiny MP resource. They might not look good, but they exist

Infuritate is also on the charge system and gets its CD reduced after every beast gauge weaponskill. Blood Weapon's "unique" trait is its (up to) 3k MP you get from it for 1 Edge or Flood vs Infuriate's trait to overwrite Fell Cleave with Inner Chaos (and aoe counterpart)

like what are you doing? You already pointed out the difference. How are you going to convince me they are the same?
Using comparisons like this only led me to a conclusion that every job is the same. You deal damage. You gain resources. You spend them. They are all the same why don't you play other games.

Delirium and IR are going to operate even MORE similar than before! SE confirmed that both will give 3 stacks of free beast and blood gauge weaponskills

Afaik, Delirium won't have a finisher like WAR is going to have. still no DH/CRT tied to it. Gearing still different (maybe)

You also argue that DRK has stuff WAR does not; again while being ignorant of how much those points weight. Those exact points you've listed there, actually counter your argument that DRK is unique! Why? Salted Earth was a characteristic action for DRK since the jobs release

Yes, it's nerfed. It's not as glorious as what it used to be.... So what? It being nerfed does not make DRK a clone because WAR doesn't even have this. That's my point. That's why I said I'm not countering anyone's argument. You and me are obviously thinking in parallel
My reply was meant to point out the word that has been misused.

Blood Weapon is also an inferior Infuriate with high risk thx to its low duration and sensitivity to high ping, which makes BW for many "offshore" peeps unrealiable.

Then it's not Infuriate. Infuriate does not last 10 seconds. The resource Infuriate generates are fixed at 50, while Blood Weapon generate resources based on how many Weaponskills you land. In my perspective, there's no need for me to explain the differences between DRK and WAR because your reply already pointed out the differences. If 1 skill is only similar in some way, then these tiny differences add up in a kit. They are just different. That's why I said I'm not here to argue. I already know we see things differently. I will never agree DRK and WAR are clones, but that does not mean I don't support the desire to demand changes for DRK. Call me ignorant all you want though. My attitude towards this argument has shifted from support despite disagreement, to old relic of past stuck in nostalgia. but who am i kidding, I'm no one. so don't mind me