Mentor abuse DC on purpose

[Misutoraru]

When someone else does this, they only represent themselves.
When a mentor does it, they throw a shade on all mentors.

The problem is that they wore their Burger King crown.

I literally took off my Mentor status back in Stormblood after seeing many mentor just jump ship when they got a fight they dont like.

I do enjoy teaching and being there when we finally overcome the hard fight. It is a sense of achievement, also try to farm some progress for the mount
There are times I do not feel like spending ages to help to teach, and I dont queue for the mentor roulette

It is like having a FC on the name, it is a representative.

Way too easy to become a mentor, even anyone have never intend to provide any coaching

[Awha]

We do accept the reality that there will be good and bad mentors. All it takes is just reporting the bad ones with their behavior, and making sure that it message comes across that the bad behavior isn't supposed to be tolerated. I don't spend much more than a few seconds over bad mentors, laugh and hit report and move on with my day. But it doesn't excuse the fact once you apply for mentorship you are a mentor; therefore you get put in the spotlight when that little mentor icon is next to your name. Don't want to be put to a higher standard? Don't apply for mentorship.

By all means report them, but way I see it GM’s hardly enforce their standards on mentors so I really cannot blame people if they ignore the rules. Rules / standards without enforcement are pointless. It legitimately is a pointless role / system people really get too caught up with the ideal of the mentor in my opinion.

That is why I have always been a fan of the idea of turning the crown in a bag of shit, cause honestly that is what the entire system is, a bag of shit.

Take the 30min penalty
or
do not join mentor roulette if you are not up for the task that throw at you

Why take the timer if one could just pretend to DC and wait to be removed? Not like a GM will be able to prove you did not really DC?

[nebby00]

By all means report them, but way I see it GM’s hardly enforce their standards on mentors so I really cannot blame people if they ignore the rules. Rules / standards without enforcement are pointless.

True, I do wish that GM's did moderate the NN and mentors with their behavior. The situation has only gotten worse with more mentors only going through the system for the mount alone. And if people feel like they can get away with bad behavior, 99% of the time they'll do it. It's kind of a bit saddening that it needs moderation... but really you can't trust people to actually put themselves to a certain standard without being watched.

That is why I have always been a fan of the idea of turning the crown in a bag of shit, cause honestly that is what the entire system is, a bag of shit.

Pfft! This actually made me laugh a bit, thanks for that XD

[Deceptus]

yeah i've seen this during my mentor runs and during msq roulettes where they didn't get Praetorium. disconnect and hope to get kicked instead of eating the 30 min penalty.

if you feel like reporting them you can do so.

Except unless they explicitly said what they were disconnecting on purpose you can't prove they are.

You have zero idea what their ISP is like or their connection.

[Snorky]

I am in favor of getting rid of mentor system only if they remove the rewards from doing roulette and retroactively remove people earned mounts, or they give everyone mounts that could be earned from the roulette system. Otherwise leave the mentor system alone if you don't like it don't become a mentor. Of they are rude or dcing a lot report them. A pattern will emerge for this person.

[Katie_Kitty]

They're not your slave, they are a human being playing a game in their free time. Deal with it.

[Caurcas]

Give me a global chat and I might ditch the crown. Until then, I am the burger king. Deal with it.

[Krojack]

Here is my take on this.

Yes, people like the one OP talks about are bad players but there is really no way to fix this other than remove trial EX fights from the Mentor roulette.

I enjoy trying to help people when I do some mentor roulettes however I start to lose that feeling when people just flat out won't listen. I can't even tell you how many EX fights I've been in where the new sprout tank just instantly pulls the boss while I or someone else is trying to explain things. That's just one of several examples.

I got The Striking Tree (Extreme) once as a tank. My tank partner just wouldn't listen. They just went in tanking and wouldn't pick up orbs and tank swap. Just instantly die every single time. I tried explaining what they need to do but they acted as if chat was just turned off.

I start losing hope and don't want to help people. This happens more often than not.

On another note, I'm getting frustrated with how people see mentors. I don't even turn my little gold crown on anymore because it's a laughing stock. Just the other day I got "The World of Darkness" as my mentor. I jokingly said "wow, I got this for mentor roulette? Ok who needs help?" and instantly someone was replied "weird flex".

[SturmChurro]

I'm sure many "mentors" would love it if they removed ex fights, as then they could just coast through the "mentor" roulette on their way towards the mount. A much higher chance for guildhests too!

I for one am glad that the mentor crown is being seen less and less as a status symbol. It means less and less people will want to become a mentor just for the icon, however the mount reward still remains. Unfortunately, even if they removed the mount it wouldn't fix the issue(s) plaguing NN, but that's for another thread.

[Misutoraru]

I am in favor of getting rid of mentor system only if they remove the rewards from doing roulette and retroactively remove people earned mounts, or they give everyone mounts that could be earned from the roulette system. Otherwise leave the mentor system alone if you don't like it don't become a mentor. Of they are rude or dcing a lot report them. A pattern will emerge for this person.

Remove it +1
the Mentor crown like a police or firefighter badge represent certain virtues
now it become a world wide chat room always turn into political
and many Mentors just want to farm mounts and many spouts refuse to be taught