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    Player
    Rhyagelle's Avatar
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    Mjoll Folhar
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    Siren
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    My sister and I, as well as our friends, have had nothing but trouble with mentors. They don't do their class job or help, they are toxic as hell to everyone but most definitely sprouts and a lot of them admit they abuse the mechanics by DCing to avoid the penalty when they decide to dip out during multi wipes (if they aren't there to help or mentor, clearly they shouldn't be a mentor!). Something not only has to change with that easy to abuse DC thing, but with mentors in general. There are so many people joining it and giving the mentors a bad name, it is getting ridiculous. You can't do a trials or dungeons without at least seeing three of them a day.
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    Player Caurcas's Avatar
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    Caur Kagon
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    Siren
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Situations only become Unwinnable when people stop trying. You sound like you stop trying before the duty even starts if the game doesn't give you the one you want. Which means it's unwinnable because of you. It also means you're damaging the community by providing examples of negative behavior to new players.

    When you queue a roulette, you agree to run any duty in that roulette. If you are not willing to run every duty in that roulette then do not queue that roulette.

    I've had a few times where myself and the rest of the group intentionally sat around in duty chatting because of a player doing force DC's hoping to skip the abandon timer leaving that person the option of eating their timer, doing the duty, or waiting for the duty timer to expire. We reported the ones that blew up in chat at us because of this before they left and ate their timer.
    That's alot of words, in fact it probably took longer to type than to unsynch the fight as is the norm.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Please report those mentors that do that.
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    Asuka Suzuhana
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    Moogle
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TabrisOmbrelame View Post
    Mentor abuse dc...
    The mentor system? This utopia from the mind of Yoshi-P and his team, supposed to serve as an example...

    Everyone knows that it's to get a nice mount after a long masochistic farm session, often devoid of skill.

    Some turn on mentor's status just for fun.

    You probably put too much importance on this "fabulous" system.
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    Last edited by Naoki34; 09-26-2021 at 11:53 AM.

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    Alpha Lupi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    When someone else does this, they only represent themselves.
    When a mentor does it, they throw a shade on all mentors.

    The problem is that they wore their Burger King crown.
    They do not. If you feel like they do then you should feel when a sprouts throw around death threats theu repsent all sprouts, when returners go on harassment sprees they repsent all returners. But you dont because some how, some way all mentors are suppose to be robots who don't play the game for fun but to teach those who don't want to learn and when some random player does bad you blame all mentors because all the randoms aren't robots either. Because if something happens you don't like its always mentors faults.
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    They do not. If you feel like they do then you should feel when a sprouts throw around death threats theu repsent all sprouts, when returners go on harassment sprees they repsent all returners. But you dont because some how, some way all mentors are suppose to be robots who don't play the game for fun but to teach those who don't want to learn and when some random player does bad you blame all mentors because all the randoms aren't robots either. Because if something happens you don't like its always mentors faults.
    You cannot choose to become a sprout/flower, but putting the crown on your head is deliberate.
    The behaviour of one mentor definitely reflects back on all mentors.
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    Alijana Tumet
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    Cactuar
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    There's a reason why throwing around the term "mentor" as an insult has become rather popular on certain platforms like Twitch.

    Unfortunately it can get to a point where people genuinely start pre-judging others simply for wearing the mentor crown.
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    There's a reason why throwing around the term "mentor" as an insult has become rather popular on certain platforms like Twitch.

    Unfortunately it can get to a point where people genuinely start pre-judging others simply for wearing the mentor crown.
    I don't know why anyone would even want to be a mentor. That whole system needs to be shut down, or the reward(s) removed. Even the Novice Network is mostly useless as well, I'd say. No need to actually be a mentor if someone actually wants to help players anyway, and I'll keep posting about it ad nauseum. I can't imagine hiding a crown either, I think people would be better off not having it to hide in the first place.
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Jenova
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    Idk.
    As much as I agree that such behavior should not be allowed, the fact that you said ”Mentor shouldn’t do this” really reeks the ‘Mentor bashing’-vibe thread.

    Yes it’s an ineffective system, but they’re also players. What about those sprout/returner/regular players that did the same? Should be turn to blind eyes because they don’t have the Burger King Crown?
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Relnoria Thelysea
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    Moogle
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Yes it’s an ineffective system, but they’re also players.
    Yes it's ineffective, and Yes they're also Players, BUT they are mentor and when mentor take the crown you have to accept to be a representative of the game (It's not me who says that, it's literraly in the game when you accept that title). Therefore, Mentor should be an exemple for all player and must teach players how to deal with certain mecanics of the game and avoid being Toxic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    What about those sprout/returner/regular players that did the same?
    Of course, I mentionned Mentor at the beginning of this thread because they are "old" player of the game. Getting 1500 Command isn't something you can do in two minutes. The ToS Apply to everyone, but I think that a "Mentor" (because you literraly represent the community of the game at a certain point) shouldn't be able to avoid punishment this easily.
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