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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Everyone, or just a vocal minority?
    No one is asking for story content to be EX or Savage level.

    But name ANY RPG where the game doesn't get progressively harder as you go through the story.

    We are basically still playing the same difficulty in non-ex and savage content as we were 8 years ago, and easier in some cases.

    And yes, it does everyone a disservice if the developers and people at large think you can only complete braindead content. That means they think you have literally 0 skill in a game you have been playing hundred or thousands of hours in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    No one is asking for story content to be EX or Savage level.

    But name ANY RPG where the game doesn't get progressively harder as you go through the story.

    We are basically still playing the same difficulty in non-ex and savage content as we were 8 years ago, and easier in some cases.

    And yes, it does everyone a disservice if the developers and people at large think you can only complete braindead content. That means they think you have literally 0 skill in a game you have been playing hundred or thousands of hours in.
    Yet here we are, with the game more popular than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Yet here we are, with the game more popular than ever.
    Largely due to WoW flying to close to the sun and having essentially rapists on payroll. But yeah we're definitely doing well and it was all because the game was super good in every single way.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Yet here we are, with the game more popular than ever.
    amount of players =/= quality of the game
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rinhi View Post
    amount of players =/= quality of the game
    Amount of players = $$$ for corporation big into $$$

    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Largely due to WoW flying to close to the sun and having essentially rapists on payroll. But yeah we're definitely doing well and it was all because the game was super good in every single way.

    Because there are only two MMos out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Amount of players = $$$ for corporation big into $$$




    Because there are only two MMos out there.
    Only 2 MMO's out there? That's probably the most delusional and laughable thing said in this entire thread.

    Also. amount of players doesn't immediately equate to more money. The logistics of corporate finances maintaining and developing an online live service game would fry your brain if you actually think it's that simplistic. Even more so considering this title has an infinite free trial version that a considerable if not majority of your new players are playing on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Only 2 MMO's out there? That's probably the most delusional and laughable thing said in this entire thread.

    Also. amount of players doesn't immediately equate to more money. The logistics of corporate finances maintaining and developing an online live service game would fry your brain if you actually think it's that simplistic. Even more so considering this title has an infinite free trial version that a considerable if not majority of your new players are playing on.
    Comprehension fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poporito_Popoto View Post
    Because there are only two MMos out there.
    Doesn't sound like you have a place in this conversation if you don't know the largest reason ffxiv gained so much popularity in the past 2 months was because of what happened with WoW and the free advertising that came with streamers leaving.
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    Just because other players play the game. Does not mean you got to be mindful, or care
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    The problem ISN'T healers rotation is busted or boring...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Doesn't sound like you have a place in this conversation if you don't know the largest reason ffxiv gained so much popularity in the past 2 months was because of what happened with WoW and the free advertising that came with streamers leaving.
    The thing is, the rising popularity of FFXIV started way before that. The game has always been on an upward slope and the last big boom we had before recent events was ShB release. You could say that the more accessible the game got, the more it grew.

    Overall, I find it hilarious that people who complain about the difficulty/muh job complexity seem to be washed up softcore players who are not full casual but won't set foot in EX+ content for the challenge.

    Guess what :
    - Casual don't care about dungeon/job complexity, they are too busy huffing paint.
    - Midcore/Hardcore players don't give a sh* about dungeons and stuff like BotD/Enochian upkeep or positionals that are trivials to them (as talked about in a recent Mogtalk with Arthars and Xeno).

    And these two categories of players vastly outnumbers the local crying forum goer community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nethereal View Post
    Doesn't sound like you have a place in this conversation if you don't know the largest reason ffxiv gained so much popularity in the past 2 months was because of what happened with WoW and the free advertising that came with streamers leaving.
    Yet here I am, having to explain these things to you.
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