A request for Endwalker Dungeons (No more Undertuned)

[Payadopa]

WoW has no mandatory dungeons while leveling. FF14 dungeons are intended as “story mode”, and their difficulty level is adjusted for it. If someone wants challenge, run Savage raids when it is just released.

Why does [I like story] equate to [I'm too stupid to hold a controller]? That's simply not true. Casual also doesn't mean brain-dead and yet SE pretends it does. And it always baffles me how complacent the community has gotten. Like it's unheard of for games to have difficulty settings.

[Xaphire]

Why does [I like story] equate to [I'm too stupid to hold a controller]? That's simply not true. Casual also doesn't mean brain-dead and yet SE pretends it does. And it always baffles me how complacent the community has gotten. Like it's unheard of for games to have difficulty settings.

You're talking in extremes, but I have personally experienced playing with people who just didn't understand how to play their job pretty frequently doing expert roulette. Players that don't AoE for big trash pulls. Bards that mash burst shot all day and never activate a song or apply a DoT.

Not everyone who plays casually falls into that group of very poor play, but some of them do. Either they don't want to learn, or aren't able to understand the mechanics of the game, the dungeons are still made easy enough that they can be carried through. Dungeons are story mode content - story mode *is* a difficulty setting.

[Leonus]

You're talking in extremes, but I have personally experienced playing with people who just didn't understand how to play their job pretty frequently doing expert roulette. Players that don't AoE for big trash pulls. Bards that mash burst shot all day and never activate a song or apply a DoT.

People only know how to talk in extremes. It's a plague in modern society. Everywhere I turn it seems these forums are just full of complaints.

However the vocal minority get more attention than the silent majority.

Give yourselves handicaps. There are ways to make the game harder without putting it all on the devs who are trying to be inclusive. People can feel how they want but need to keep the game accessible to the majority and not just individuals.

If you aren't having fun, find another game.

[Aiscence]

People only know how to talk in extremes. It's a plague in modern society. Everywhere I turn it seems these forums are just full of complaints.

However the vocal minority get more attention than the silent majority.

Give yourselves handicaps. There are ways to make the game harder without putting it all on the devs who are trying to be inclusive. People can feel how they want but need to keep the game accessible to the majority and not just individuals.

If you aren't having fun, find another game.

I've seen people not wear their job stone and still have 10 to 20% more dps than anyone else in their party, or people getting more dps than half the dps of alliance roulette just by pressing "1", the level is not low, it's literally burried.

Humans tend to not evolve and stay in their comfort zone unless they meet a wall that make them learn to pass it, the risk is that now with people being too used to be mouth feed everything, they will leave because "the game is mean and forced me to do a mechanic while I press my buttons". Game is growing for years, and it was already the case when it was harder.

[Mindiori]

Why does [I like story] equate to [I'm too stupid to hold a controller]? That's simply not true. Casual also doesn't mean brain-dead and yet SE pretends it does. And it always baffles me how complacent the community has gotten. Like it's unheard of for games to have difficulty settings.

Because they are literally that stupid. Just look at the speed 'no' arrives. There is no reason why any achievement should be overly easy or it means nothing. Casual indeed should have remained time invested, not the amount of IQ points.

These people struggle with a single button at best. The trouble is that catering to it, besides increasing profits due to the increasing number of the population who are lazy looking for instant gratification - has exponentially worsened the issue. They are correct, we aren't the target market anymore. Yet what is the point of beginning something so brainless that its attainment is devoid of any meaning? Eventually the only people gaming will be streamers and those who think Scholars one button festival is skillful play.

No not everyone is equal. But improvement requires a collective standard of difficultly to be established. You are effectively gimping yourself and your potential ceiling - no matter your ability; by reducing a game to something barely fit for the lowest common denominator. If the so called 'casuals' believed in compromise, beyond 'hurr durr you get your 1% of difficult content now stfu and leave me to my 99%' things might be different. Instead the ''elitism'' they talk about; stems from a jaded community. Who have conceded far too much of their fun to imbeciles.

[NatePride]

Why does [I like story] equate to [I'm too stupid to hold a controller]? That's simply not true. Casual also doesn't mean brain-dead and yet SE pretends it does. And it always baffles me how complacent the community has gotten. Like it's unheard of for games to have difficulty settings.

you realise people have differeing skill levels and may really just enjoy the story and can play to a bare minimum.