Openly admitting to ignoring the players

[Truen]

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Whatever is "best" for the game's future, that sure looks like a double dose of Ambien to me.

Yeah. His response was just a bunch of empty platitudes that ignored the issue of 1-button spam completely.

[Aword3213]

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Whatever is "best" for the game's future, that sure looks like a double dose of Ambien to me.

The excessive casts of Glare/Broil/Malefic aside. We all know what we actually do are more than that.

For WHM, Assize, Tetragrammaton, Asylum, Divine Benison, Afflatus Solace, Afflatus Misery, etc

For SCH, Sacred Soil, Exog, Aether Flow, Indomintability, Summon Seraph,etc

For AST, Light Speed, cards, Earthly Star, Celestial Opposition, etc

I'm not here to counter you though. I know where your sentiment is coming from. I don't like those excessive cast of 1 spell either. They tried to address this after Eden's Verse, but what we see in Eden's Promise is still a bit lacking. Hopefully they can find a way to push us to our fullest in EW .

[Baxcel]

The excessive casts of Glare/Broil/Malefic aside. We all know what we actually do are more than that.

For WHM, Assize, Tetragrammaton, Asylum, Divine Benison, Afflatus Solace, Afflatus Misery, etc

For SCH, Sacred Soil, Exog, Aether Flow, Indomintability, Summon Seraph,etc

For AST, Light Speed, cards, Earthly Star, Celestial Opposition, etc

I'm not here to counter you though. I know where your sentiment is coming from. I don't like those excessive cast of 1 spell either. They tried to address this after Eden's Verse, but what we see in Eden's Promise is still a bit lacking. Hopefully they can find a way to push us to our fullest in EW .

Agreed that there is more to healers and I'm not here to argue either but aside from white mage which had 2 damaging spells in your list.. scholar had 0 and Astro only had 1.. I don't mind current setups on healers personally I started healing as Scholar in Stormblood so I don't know what's all missing or changed to much.. but I do know that scholar in ShB has been a let down.. ive swapped to WHT as my main healer and with Yoshi saying nothing is wrong with SCH and there won't be much change.. its not looking like the job for me for another 2 years.. the same with my original main being DRK... nothing new.. nothing changed and nothing was fixed.

[Deceptus]

The excessive casts of Glare/Broil/Malefic aside. We all know what we actually do are more than that.

For WHM, Assize, Tetragrammaton, Asylum, Divine Benison, Afflatus Solace, Afflatus Misery, etc

For SCH, Sacred Soil, Exog, Aether Flow, Indomintability, Summon Seraph,etc

For AST, Light Speed, cards, Earthly Star, Celestial Opposition, etc

I'm not here to counter you though. I know where your sentiment is coming from. I don't like those excessive cast of 1 spell either. They tried to address this after Eden's Verse, but what we see in Eden's Promise is still a bit lacking. Hopefully they can find a way to push us to our fullest in EW .

Thing is, ALL of those are OGCD. So while there is "stuff to do" you spend the majority of your characters time casting Generic Nuke

[Mortex]

You guys are so focused on making the game harder for you when it’s not about you. It’s about the players who don’t want to treat this like a job and still do optimal dps with not extreme amounts of effort

I mean you have so many healer that don’t dps even with 2 buttons too press. Implementing a lot of dmg button won’t hurt people that don’t want to dps anyway. With so little buttons too press for healer dps you only kneecap people who want too deal dmg and like I said people that don’t deal dmg don’t care anyway if they have 2 or 10 dps buttons. This game is taking the wow route in the job/class design. Making everything easy doesn’t always result in enjoyment and fun it rather makes you so bored that even when you love the healer role, you dont want to play it anymore. But that’s not even all the healer roles fault at this point, it’s the 6 years of being ignored by the dev team and being treated like a 3 class human being that makes us so enraged and bitter and then you have people tell you here too chill or take a break from the game and I even did that. I took a break for months and chilled and the feeling except being a bit rusty after starting too play the game again didn’t change because it can’t change with the encounter design we currently have in ff 14.

[Aword3213]

Thing is, ALL of those are OGCD. So while there is "stuff to do" you spend the majority of your characters time casting Generic Nuke

Judging by this statement alone I would think turning those abilities into non instant GCDs would solve all the problems, though I'm pretty sure those Afflatus thingy are not oGCD last time I checked

I think the problem lies not on GCDs or oGCDs, but the variety of things we can do when healing is not required. I personally can live with 1 GCD spam as long as that GCD interacts with something, like giving gauges with each successful cast

[Recon1o6]

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Trust is earned not expected. Right now Yoshida and co are on a slippery slope. They have higher numbers than ever thanks to WOW burning to bits and the smart marketing move of offering two games for free as a trial, but they got to keep these numbers, and right now they are doing their damndest to remove veterans from the game.

The older jobs and newer job designs are not mutually exclusive, but instead of making jobs low floor high ceiling, they instead continued down the path nobody wants which is homogenisation and utter disrespect for healers.

[Deceptus]

Judging by this statement alone I would think turning those abilities into non instant GCDs would solve all the problems, though I'm pretty sure those Afflatus thingy are not oGCD last time I checked

I think the problem lies not on GCDs or oGCDs, but the variety of things we can do when healing is not required. I personally can live with 1 GCD spam as long as that GCD interacts with something, like giving gauges with each successful cast

SCH pvp used to be like this (Still might be?) Your main filler spell would give you charges of aetheryte which you could use on lustrate.

But yeah, Broil giving 5-10 on the fairy gauge? Yes freaking please. Or y'know that trait they dropped in ShB that lowered the CD on aetherflow on each broil cast.

Glare giving you a chance to proc FreeCure? Yes freaking please.

Malefic lowering the CD on Essential Dignity or Card Draw?

[Laphicet]

When they openly admit and state that they are aware of the interest and love of the older style of play from the previous game builds, but believe the current game build is best for the game's future growth as a whole;

You know, people said the exact same shit about ShB. How it was just a platform they were going to build off of for all healers. And that all healers would drastically improve because "They were only tearing them down to build them up again guys I swear!"

Well, who's laughing now, because it isn't me. And these people were very fucking wrong in their predictions.

[Garnix]

You know, people said the exact same shit about ShB. How it was just a platform they were going to build off of for all healers. And that all healers would drastically improve because "They were only tearing them down to build them up again guys I swear!"

Well, who's laughing now, because it isn't me. And these people were very fucking wrong in their predictions.

These people were not necessarily wrong...Aside from the AST sect changes which some people may not like, every other changes announced for healers are improvements.