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    Eloah's Avatar
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    Toki Tsuchimi
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Artemiz View Post
    I don't really understand your comparison with FFXI though, SMN in FFXIV was never anything like the job in FFXI so I don't understand your point about it "moving away" from the FFXI version, it was never anything like it. Sure there are a few surface level similarities (it uses primals as pets) but on a mechanical level they were always poles apart. I don't think SMN will ever get 3 more primals, the game play loop in FFXIV just wouldn't suit having nearly a dozen different pets so just like how BLM is stripped very bare compared to FFXI SMN is the same. This game achieves challenging and engaging content in a completely different way to FFXI.
    Ah I see where the confusion lies.

    Well to start, not sure if you are aware about the clamor the forums have been subjected to over the years about FFXIV's version of SMN, and how it wasn't a "True SMN". Which isn't a thing, but I digress. These individuals kept pointing at FFXI's version of SMN, since it was the only other MMO version to compare it to, makes sense I guess. But these people had clouded memories and kept insisting XI's SMN was "better" for some reason. My guess is because the Avatars looked "cooler" than the Egis.

    However, people who played XI and whose minds weren't clouded by nostalgia, pointed out that the two systems were the exact same, a pet that follows you that you give commands to every so often, while you do your own thing. In XI this usually had you rely on your 2nd job, but in XIV it was about managing your DoTs.

    With Shadowbringers, the system started to move away from that design, and this rework seems to be enforcing it some more. That was what I meant when I mentioned FFXI. That their iterations were functionally similar, but with this rework that doesn't appear to be the case anymore.

    Oh and as for the other 3 primals, I wasn't saying add them to the rotation per se, at least not how the job looks now. I was meaning as glamours. Like we can swap out the Ruby, Topaz, and Emerald, for a Sapphire, Aquamarine, or Amethyst.
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    Last edited by Eloah; 09-22-2021 at 03:54 AM.
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.