I am beyond dissapointed with the job trailer

[Roda]

It never felt like a Summoner in this game at all to begin with. Now it will.

And that's the problem. People with preconceptions from older ff games are drawn to the class because of the name, and people who played the class and enjoyed it's playstyle and niche are both wanting different things for the class. SE caved to one group, without giving an alternative to the people who enjoyed the class that existed. There is now a huge void in the caster jobs.

For me, they almost nailed it, but they removed a huge portion of the reason why I've mained this class for so long. I now no longer have a job that 1, needs to manage dots, 2, has to deal with pet interactions, and 3, doesn't rely on elemental spell aesthetics. I'm glad that the carbuncle is still here, and, in theory, enjoy the gameplay changes from the different "summons," but that's all I've got to look forward to rn, and nothing to fill the void that the removal of my main class has left.

[Senn]

And that's the problem. People with preconceptions from older ff games are drawn to the class because of the name, and people who played the class and enjoyed it's playstyle and niche are both wanting different things for the class. SE caved to one group, without giving an alternative to the people who enjoyed the class that existed. There is now a huge void in the caster jobs.

For me, they almost nailed it, but they removed a huge portion of the reason why I've mained this class for so long. I now no longer have a job that 1, needs to manage dots, 2, has to deal with pet interactions, and 3, doesn't rely on elemental spell aesthetics. I'm glad that the carbuncle is still here, and, in theory, enjoy the gameplay changes from the different "summons," but that's all I've got to look forward to rn, and nothing to fill the void that the removal of my main class has left.

I'm thinking a new DoT class will be added in smn's place. Onmyouji or Oracle. Something like a "Japanese type of Shaman, Magician, Conjurer-like ranged attacker" was considered for stormblood.
With smn being changed so drastically, they might go back to this idea.

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[Roda]

I'm thinking a new DoT class will be added in smn's place. Onmyouji or Oracle. Something like a "Japanese type of Shaman, Magician, Conjurer-like ranged attacker" was considered for stormblood.
With smn being changed so drastically, they might go back to this idea.

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Unfortunately that wouldn't check all 3 boxes like current summoner does. :T
(ACN job when SE?)

But let's hope they understand the void exists now. We'll just have to wait two whole years. ugh.
(I'm expecting them to release that kind of caster and BST as a phys ranged, and have all of us who enjoy current smn be split down the middle)

[Senn]

(I'm expecting them to release that kind of caster and BST as a phys ranged, and have all of us who enjoy current smn be split down the middle)

Something like that might happen. Maybe the team was thinking smn was too many things at once so they're splitting the concept that was old smn into different jobs instead. This definitely opens the door for a fresh new "pet" job and DoT job. On a side note, I kind of wish smn would just get a new weapon already. Leave the books to sch.

[Roda]

I kind of wish smn would just get a new weapon already. Leave the books to sch.

DONT YOU DARE MAKE THEM TAKE ANOTHER THING FROM ME!!

(Give schs nerd scrolls)

[NessaWyvern]

(Give schs nerd scrolls)

Or they could give summoners summoning scrolls

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Or they could give summoners summoning scrolls

[Shironeko_Narunyan]

And that's the problem. People with preconceptions from older ff games are drawn to the class because of the name, and people who played the class and enjoyed it's playstyle and niche are both wanting different things for the class. SE caved to one group, without giving an alternative to the people who enjoyed the class that existed. There is now a huge void in the caster jobs.

For me, they almost nailed it, but they removed a huge portion of the reason why I've mained this class for so long. I now no longer have a job that 1, needs to manage dots, 2, has to deal with pet interactions, and 3, doesn't rely on elemental spell aesthetics. I'm glad that the carbuncle is still here, and, in theory, enjoy the gameplay changes from the different "summons," but that's all I've got to look forward to rn, and nothing to fill the void that the removal of my main class has left.

I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.

[Roda]

I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.

My thing is, "final fantasy summoner" has never been consistent between the games. The gameplay identity has always been kind of a mess between games, with summoners wearing more hats than just the horn. I didn't see a reason why XIV's couldn't be built off of dots and pets instead of, say, white magic and a big flashy attack. I appreciated XIV's unique take. :T
(I'm also of the opinion that there was room for more compromise between established xiv summoner and big flashy boom boom smn. But we'll see, hopefully the stuff they didn't show has more of what we've come to love about smn.)