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  1. #51
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    Mhiro's Avatar
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    Rei'mhi Nariya
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    Malboro
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    Sage Lv 90
    Tbh jobs being drastically changed every expansion isn't a good thing. If a job is functioning as intended by the devs, then all any job would need is upgrades to existing skills and either a new finisher, a new piece of utility, or some form of both in combination. Maybe some QoL to advance the rotation change for the new level cap.

    SMN and SCH have unfortunately been thanos snapped followed by a Dynamis Dice roll to determine functionality every expansion since 2.0 because theyve been partially imbalanced every expansion due to their dual connection to Arcanist. I would much rather them be settled with minimal changes than have to have my world flipped turned upside down every 2 years.
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  2. #52
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    KitKatnip's Avatar
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    Lannie Sherrin
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    Cactuar
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    Arcanist Lv 81
    I don't deal well with change and SE is throwing out a lot of changes with Endwalker. It's pretty overwhelming to be honest.

    You aren't really summoning anything new with Summoner though (just the dragon and phoenix like now). You are just charging gems to cast some spells. Not sure if that's going to be an improvement. As a backup plan, I'm leveling Dragoon (which I really like and apparently is not changing much in Endwalker). So if I end up hating the new Summoner at least I will have Dragoon to fall back on.
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    Last edited by KitKatnip; 09-20-2021 at 05:00 AM.

  3. #53
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailuron View Post
    ahahaha like SMN to me... unpopular opinion, but I personally don't like SMN's change in direction into a more traditional caster.. this rework.. sure it looks nice and fancy, but it doesnt feel like a summoner anymore, to me at least.
    To me the changes make the job more like a true summoner where you are summoning the essence of the primals you've defeated along the way. The changes look interesting to me but without knowing how the skills are played and what the actions bar looks like the jury is out on whether I will like the changes. If they are like some of the jobs I had to play as part of the Shadowbringer main quest scenarios that use a single key for progressive skills I probably won't like it. If the skills can be set as individual action buttons I can fire when I want then I will probably like the new stuff though I will miss the DoTs. That being said FFXIV will no longer have a pet style class which the current SMN is more or less. As I like playing pet classes I think this makes for a big hole in a popular MMO job class and could make for some player losses to MMO's that do have pet classes.
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  4. #54
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    Shironeko_Narunyan's Avatar
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    Noraneko Narunyan
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    Sophia
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Roda View Post
    And that's the problem. People with preconceptions from older ff games are drawn to the class because of the name, and people who played the class and enjoyed it's playstyle and niche are both wanting different things for the class. SE caved to one group, without giving an alternative to the people who enjoyed the class that existed. There is now a huge void in the caster jobs.

    For me, they almost nailed it, but they removed a huge portion of the reason why I've mained this class for so long. I now no longer have a job that 1, needs to manage dots, 2, has to deal with pet interactions, and 3, doesn't rely on elemental spell aesthetics. I'm glad that the carbuncle is still here, and, in theory, enjoy the gameplay changes from the different "summons," but that's all I've got to look forward to rn, and nothing to fill the void that the removal of my main class has left.
    I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.
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  5. #55
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    Roda's Avatar
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    Roda Tirhaalo
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    Balmung
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    Pictomancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan View Post
    I'd love a proper "pet class". I had most fun with the job when we still had a tank Titan. That was not a "final fantasy summoner", and I respect that, but I don't see a reason why there shouldn't be such a job in the game.
    My thing is, "final fantasy summoner" has never been consistent between the games. The gameplay identity has always been kind of a mess between games, with summoners wearing more hats than just the horn. I didn't see a reason why XIV's couldn't be built off of dots and pets instead of, say, white magic and a big flashy attack. I appreciated XIV's unique take. :T
    (I'm also of the opinion that there was room for more compromise between established xiv summoner and big flashy boom boom smn. But we'll see, hopefully the stuff they didn't show has more of what we've come to love about smn.)
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    Last edited by Roda; 09-20-2021 at 01:35 PM.
    ~sigh~

  6. #56
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I don't want sweeping changes to most of the jobs. Part of what excited me for Dragoon is keeping it consistent but with a needed facelift on old animations like Full Thrust and Chaos Thrust. While I'd like a little more going on for Warrior, I'm okay with the smaller additions for the same reason. Red Mage just looks like a huge QoL change with some visual flair.

    All in all, I'm pretty happy with most jobs from the trailer.
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    Aelona Chillwind
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    Lich
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    Ninja Lv 100
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    Dawn Bright-blade
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 80
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