Jobs Moving Forward

[Jeeqbit]

You can already do damage while healing someone with a macro like this.

/action "Stone" <t>
/action "Stone" <tt>

You can do the reverse and heal someone while a boss is your target and a player is your focus target.

/action "Cure" <t>
/action "Cure" <f>
/action "Cure" <0>

You could also make these do the last target with <lt> or you can make it heal the main tank with <tt>.

It seems pointless for this to be presented as a unique feature of Sage.

[Kes13a]

how was SCH gutted.. exactly?

sch was a barrier healer before, what were they going to add to enhance that? are they receiving a complete rework like smn, nope, but so what? I have not had anyone able to point out how they were "so broken". Most of the people complaining are the same people who did so when SCH lost many of teh damage abilities that allowed people to essentially queue faster because they wanted to dps instead of heal, well, now you have SGE for that.

we havent even PLAYED it yet.. so how a group is losing its collective minds over something thats apparently been destroyed when they have lost nothing is amazing.

[Reksanden]

how was SCH gutted.. exactly?

sch was a barrier healer before, what were they going to add to enhance that? are they receiving a complete rework like smn, nope, but so what? I have not had anyone able to point out how they were "so broken". Most of the people complaining are the same people who did so when SCH lost many of teh damage abilities that allowed people to essentially queue faster because they wanted to dps instead of heal, well, now you have SGE for that.

we havent even PLAYED it yet.. so how a group is losing its collective minds over something thats apparently been destroyed when they have lost nothing is amazing.

Nothing amazingly new was shown, and with no other hard info to back it, it feels like a slap in the face to them.

... And hurt people react accordingly. The general consensus will change as we know more.

It doesn't address the "spam one damage spell" complaint, of course, so it's likely many folks will be drawn to Sage's "many attacks, heal while attacking" allure.

[Kes13a]

Nothing amazingly new was shown, and with no other hard info to back it, it feels like a slap in the face to them.

... And hurt people react accordingly. The general consensus will change as we know more.

It doesn't address the "spam one damage spell" complaint, of course, so it's likely many folks will be drawn to Sage's "many attacks, heal while attacking" allure.

yeah I get that it didnt get a whole closet full of cool new spells.. but.. why would it? we have no clue what other QoL adjustments may have been made since they didnt address ALL the changes.

why arent people saying how WHM was so hard done by? I lost a spell (which I never ever used anyway) and gained some other meh thing, where are the dirges for death of WHM?

no, I dont think WHM is dying now am I giving it up. it just hilarious that people are wailing over something that I havent seen as in a horrible place. (teh SCH mains I know arent crying over their cereal this morning from what I know)

[SaberMaxwell]

I second this.

Thirded. /10char

[Rae88]

You can already do damage while healing someone with a macro like this.

/action "Stone" <t>
/action "Stone" <tt>

You can do the reverse and heal someone while a boss is your target and a player is your focus target.

/action "Cure" <t>
/action "Cure" <f>
/action "Cure" <0>

You could also make these do the last target with <lt> or you can make it heal the main tank with <tt>.

It seems pointless for this to be presented as a unique feature of Sage.

No. Not damage while healing someone, "attack an enemy while healing a designated target simultaneously". This raises the possibility that, because these things happen simultaneously, that sage heals marked players through doing damage to an enemy. Which is how Discipline Priest heals in WoW.

And if that's the case Sage is automatically an incredible breath of fresh air in what has been a stale healing environment for years.

I'm straight up hoping Yoshi-P lifted Discipline Priest from WoW and plonked it right into FFXIV.

[Kes13a]

No. Not damage while healing someone, "attack an enemy while healing a designated target simultaneously". This raises the possibility that, because these things happen simultaneously, that sage heals marked players through doing damage to an enemy. Which is how Discipline Priest heals in WoW.

And if that's the case Sage is automatically an incredible breath of fresh air in what has been a stale healing environment for years.

I'm straight up hoping Yoshi-P lifted Discipline Priest from WoW and plonked it right into FFXIV.

basically gives all those people wanting to dps over heal, full license to now. guess they got their faster queue times back.

[Rosenstrauch]

No. Not damage while healing someone, "attack an enemy while healing a designated target simultaneously". This raises the possibility that, because these things happen simultaneously, that sage heals marked players through doing damage to an enemy. Which is how Discipline Priest heals in WoW.

And if that's the case Sage is automatically an incredible breath of fresh air in what has been a stale healing environment for years.

I'm straight up hoping Yoshi-P lifted Discipline Priest from WoW and plonked it right into FFXIV.

Well, this is promising, lol. Maybe they can copy Brewmaster Monk's deferred damage mechanic for a tank Job, too. I'd like that, at least.

[Jeeqbit]

I misunderstood the translation then, we'll have to see what it's like but just like scholar fairy's auto-heal is kept not too powerful, this would probably have to sustain about the same until you press additional buttons.

[Tint]

No. Not damage while healing someone, "attack an enemy while healing a designated target simultaneously". This raises the possibility that, because these things happen simultaneously, that sage heals marked players through doing damage to an enemy. Which is how Discipline Priest heals in WoW.

And if that's the case Sage is automatically an incredible breath of fresh air in what has been a stale healing environment for years.

I'm straight up hoping Yoshi-P lifted Discipline Priest from WoW and plonked it right into FFXIV.

I think they just wanted to mimic the fairy in some way which keeps healing while the SCH does dps. Easier to balance than the problems they had with Noct AST vs SCH.