Worthless Live Letter

[Kraniel]

What? Even tanks get to use 100% of their toolkits in dungeons. Why should Healers be the ones with the wasted ability slots?

Jesus Christ, some people here really are fucking experts when it comes to taking out one line of a post out of its context and reply only to that.
Does it look like i think it's normal for us to only press one DPS button all the time and occasionally use one of our 20 support spells ?

What i was saying was : We can't tell for sure healers will be in the same spot because the way they play highly depends on encounter design, and EW hasn't come out yet. But when it comes out, we'll all realize that encounter design is all the same, and healers are still spamming the same DPS button.
Conclusion : At that point, if you wish to play a class that has a kit of which 80% of the skills are frequently usable throughout fights, you should just play DPS.

I'm NOT saying it's normal that we will have to switch to DPS to enjoy the game more, just because healing is designed poorly in this game, but what are you going to do ? Go in front of SE's offices and riot ?

[Sebazy]

oh yes, you would rely on arbitrary queue times to claim healers are few, while the data using Main Hand IL as criteria suggests precisely the opposite.

I won't post link here because many websites suggest the same results. it's easy to search

sorry to break it to you, but healers as a role is well received by audience especially when ShB hits.

Having stuff leveled != actually running content with it

[EmpyreanHelios]

Did y’all see that man press the laser button on Sage at that dummy and then he kept clicking it and clicking it?….

That was the pinnacle of healer gameplay. I was hyped af

…./s

[Roeshel]

Go away Roeshel. No one cares about your White Knighting points.

Jesus. One shouldn't need a lot of experience to realize that being mad about something doesn't make them right.

The healers changes for Endwalker are more than good. They have provided more than the bare minimum. Saying that everyone plays like AST pure madness. Every job in the game can weave for free.

Sage literally has a multiple buttons rotation and people on the healer forums are still moaning. Guys, something is just very wrong with you.

Don't expect developers to argue with a tiny bit of their playerbase about the chages they have made. I also think that healing while dpsing is a much more complex than simply lining 3-5 DoTs on the target and then taking your time to heal with GCD heals.

Get a reality check. The changes were good.

[Kraniel]

Jesus. One shouldn't need a lot of experience to realize that being mad about something doesn't make them right.

The healers changes for Endwalker are more than good. They have provided more than the bare minimum. Saying that everyone plays like AST pure madness. Every job in the game can weave for free.

Sage literally has a multiple buttons rotation and people on the healer forums are still moaning. Guys, something is just very wrong with you.

Don't expect developers to argue with a tiny bit of their playerbase about the chages they have made. I also think that healing while dpsing is a much more complex than simply lining 3-5 DoTs on the target and then taking your time to heal with GCD heals.

Get a reality check. The changes were good.

The changes were good but they don't address the core issue of healers spending 95% of their time in content pressing one single button. Unless encounter design is different in EW (which is unlikely the case), this is not going to change.

[Aword3213]

Having stuff leveled != actually running content with it

uhhh.. you would think arbitrary queue time and your anecdotal party finder story make your argument valid than actual data? One that can easily be countered by another story?

"but in my Data Center, Healer queue are long and Adventurer in Need never pops for healers"

"but the PF in my Data Center, Healer roles fill more quickly than DPS"

But fine, if one thinks MH IL are just to "level" as you say and thus do not reflect the actual player base, then don't wake up

Reality can be harsh sometimes, and it's normal for people not to accept it

[Sebazy]

uhhh.. you would think arbitrary queue time and your anecdotal party finder story make your argument valid than actual data? One that can easily be countered by another story?

"but in my Data Center, Healer queue are long and Adventurer in Need never pops for healers"

"but the PF in my Data Center, Healer roles fill more quickly than DPS"

But fine, if one thinks MH IL are just to "level" as you say and thus do not reflect the actual player base, then don't wake up

Reality can be harsh sometimes, and it's normal for people not to accept it

Ok

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ff...er+queue+times

8 comments on the first page specifically covering short to non existent healer queue times. 1 comment complaining about long (11 minutes) right after a patch but clicking through that one also mentions that they were short beforehand.

The active healer player base has never been thinner than it is. I idle as a healer as that’s my main. But I’ll be damned if I’m running casual content on it because it’s deathly boring.

[Liam_Harper]

or the changes attracted larger audience and made healers more popular

Healers aren't popular for healing anymore. Healers are popular for a low-effort free-carry ticket into harder content. There are healers clearing Savage with 40% uptime, spamming one aoe GCD heal and hitting random buttons in panic and they get away with it. Lazy players love it.

That's awful design and should never be the selling point for a role.

[Roeshel]

The changes were good but they don't address the core issue of healers spending 95% of their time in content pressing one single button. Unless encounter design is different in EW (which is unlikely the case), this is not going to change.

But they did address that. Sage has like 5 different damaging spells against a ST, the last one looking like Ranged DPS LB1 and then you have actual rotation for AoE plus healing kit that is completely different from the other healers.

If people are actually frustrated that they have to press the same buttons when playing then this game is not for them. Even the so complex and filled with depth DPS classes are pressing the exact same buttons in the exact same order whether it is for savage or dungeon bosses.

[Aword3213]

Healers aren't popular for healing anymore. Healers are popular for a low-effort free-carry ticket into harder content. There are healers clearing Savage with 40% uptime, spamming one aoe GCD heal and hitting random buttons in panic and they get away with it. Lazy players love it.

That's awful design and should never be the selling point for a role.

I agree with you