Worthless Live Letter

[Sebazy]

My early morning pre coffee thoughts:

WHM got Earthly Star

AST got Assize

SCH looks stale

Sadge looks fresh

[Endariel]

Yoshi explaining that healers are in a good spot

[Sebazy]

Yoshi explaining that healers are in a good spot

Misstranslation pls, this was him spending 5 minutes explaining SCH Peloton <3

[Absurdity]

There will surely be healers that are not angry about the changes, or lack thereof, they're probably just indifferent. Because a lot of people playing this game couldn't care less about how their job actually plays, they queue into expert roulette, press their 3 buttons to heal while watching Netflix or Youtube and call it a day.
Now the question is, should the game be designed around those kinds of players? At the end of the day they'll just take whatever SE gives them anyway.

[Aword3213]

There will surely be healers that are not angry about the changes, or lack thereof, they're probably just indifferent. Because a lot of people playing this game couldn't care less about how their job actually plays, they queue into expert roulette, press their 3 buttons to heal while watching Netflix or Youtube and call it a day.
Now the question is, should the game be designed around those kinds of players? At the end of the day they'll just take whatever SE gives them anyway.

You surely do know how exactly those people think, huh?

[Elladie]

There will surely be healers that are not angry about the changes, or lack thereof, they're probably just indifferent. Because a lot of people playing this game couldn't care less about how their job actually plays, they queue into expert roulette, press their 3 buttons to heal while watching Netflix or Youtube and call it a day.
Now the question is, should the game be designed around those kinds of players? At the end of the day they'll just take whatever SE gives them anyway.

You're making a lot of offensive assumptions here.

Casual players - of which I am undoubtedly one - are not indifferent. We care how our jobs play. I play most of the jobs, but I consider myself a healer main, and my healers have been fine and fun to play when I run content. I would no more dream of watching Netflix while playing than I would if I had guests around for dinner. I don't doubt there are players who do so, but I have encountered exactly one during the 11 years I've played this game.
It's fine to be unhappy with what you don't like about healers. It's not fine to make outrageous generalisations about the players who aren't unhappy. The truth is, most of them never come near the forums. They are out there playing the game they enjoy

[Valkyrie_]

You're making a lot of offensive assumptions here.

I don't think they were making generalisations though, he was just asking the question why the game should be constantly designed so much around the super casual part of the playerbase, it's not some personal attack on casuals, it's a good question.
They weren't generalizing any more than you did with "casual players are not indifferent, we care how our jobs play".


And he's absolutely right in asking, just look at what they said about designing reaper, they said they knew the class was going to be popular, so they didn't want to make it too hard.
We already have tons of classes that cater to casual players, why mush SCH(which used to be the skillful healer), play braindead like WHM?

Like it or not, casuals are the root of the problem for why SCH is in such a bad state, of course it's not like they have done anything wrong, no one is specifically blaming casual players, casuals are what keep ffxiv alive and thriving after all.

But it IS the develepors fault for always catering to them and not giving any thought to the players who want a challenge or *gasp!* more than 1-2 buttons to spam.
If the devs actually stopped doing that, they might find that alot of casuals actually don't mind a mild challenge here and there, they just need a little push.

[Rubiss]

I don't think they were making generalisations though, he was just asking the question why the game should be constantly designed so much around the super casual part of the playerbase, it's not some personal attack on casuals, it's a good question.
They weren't generalizing any more than you did with "casual players are not indifferent, we care how our jobs play".


And he's absolutely right in asking, just look at what they said about designing reaper, they said they knew the class was going to be popular, so they didn't want to make it too hard.
We already have tons of classes that cater to casual players, why mush SCH(which used to be the skillful healer), play braindead like WHM?

Like it or not, casuals are the root of the problem for why SCH is in such a bad state, of course it's not like they have done anything wrong, no one is specifically blaming casual players, casuals are what keep ffxiv alive and thriving after all.

But it IS the develepors fault for always catering to them and not giving any thought to the players who want a challenge or *gasp!* more than 1-2 buttons to spam.
If the devs actually stopped doing that, they might find that alot of casuals actually don't mind a mild challenge here and there, they just need a little push.

The problem with casuals are that they don't care about optimization, so why bother trying to close the gap between people who optimize and a casual? They're going to perform poorly regardless. May as well keep the job good and just let them pull bad numbers, as per usual.

[Mesarthim]

I'll just wait until the job action pages come. That's when I rightfully got angry / concerned about AST. It's better now but anyone who played healers for 5 minutes could've seen what was wrong with 5.0 AST (before the page long list of changes 2 weeks in).

We'll see if there's a repeat.

[FoxCh40s]

or did they?

They absolutely did.

"We know there are some people who wish to return to the complexity of 3.0, but we decided to not do that."

That was them acknowledging forum feedback, and stating, "We really don't care."

It was pretty damn plain to see, anyone else who thinks so, is either blind, or unable to read implied statements that PR speak.