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    So by now most of us have watched the trailer and the changes being made. I have a few SCH friends, my GF included, who are completely gutted by the SCH changes. So. I'm here to say this to Square. If such dire changes are required to implement NEW classes into the game (Looking at you Sage). We don't ALWAYS NEED new classes for expansions. The same amount of people will play for the content. But if you're having forcefully change classes to be put into two pools. Don't make new classes of that type. Perhaps make supportive DPS classes to match the needs of whatever they are supporting. Emphasize RDM to maybe support heal more if the need arises. Etc. Taking away core aspects of the current healers, splitting them into two separate groups, then more or less gutting or taking away what makes them unique in themselves though just to make a new fancy class seems a bit over the top. Will people still play SCH? I'm sure. But going forward. We don't NEED new classes to enjoy things. It's not a make or break. Keep that in mind please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    So by now most of us have watched the trailer and the changes being made. I have a few SCH friends, my GF included, who are completely gutted by the SCH changes. So. I'm here to say this to Square. If such dire changes are required to implement NEW classes into the game (Looking at you Sage). We don't ALWAYS NEED new classes for expansions. The same amount of people will play for the content. But if you're having forcefully change classes to be put into two pools. Don't make new classes of that type. Perhaps make supportive DPS classes to match the needs of whatever they are supporting. Emphasize RDM to maybe support heal more if the need arises. Etc. Taking away core aspects of the current healers, splitting them into two separate groups, then more or less gutting or taking away what makes them unique in themselves though just to make a new fancy class seems a bit over the top. Will people still play SCH? I'm sure. But going forward. We don't NEED new classes to enjoy things. It's not a make or break. Keep that in mind please.
    People have complained for 2 expansions that a new healer wasn't added.

    So they added one. And they had to make them fit within the archetypes.

    Sure, SCH needs work, and it not getting any love is upsetting, but to just.. ask for no new jobs when that is a major draw to expansions is just silly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People have complained for 2 expansions that a new healer wasn't added.

    So they added one. And they had to make them fit within the archetypes.

    Sure, SCH needs work, and it not getting any love is upsetting, but to just.. ask for no new jobs when that is a major draw to expansions is just silly...
    That's great. And now they HAVE added one and everyone is losing their collective shit because SCH was destroyed in the process. So the customer doesn't always knwo what's best. This should teach them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaticDodo View Post
    I just have to give the ultra casuals a round of applause. Going to stick with these basic classes and get no significant changes because that would be too hard. They even mentioned they were afraid of making Reaper too difficult.
    Yeah I caught that. Which is a bit strange considering what SMN was as opposed to what it looks like it is now. (The complete opposite). But I still stand by my initial statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    That's great. And now they HAVE added one and everyone is losing their collective shit because SCH was destroyed in the process. So the customer doesn't always knwo what's best. This should teach them.
    People lost their collective shit over SAM potencies when it was added, which caused SE to buff every other melee, which made SAM pretty much ignorable until shortly after 5.0.

    People lose their shit over everything.
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    It doesn't look like much is even changing with SCH at all and SCH is fine right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    It doesn't look like much is even changing with SCH at all and SCH is fine right now.
    Broil spam goes brrrr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lecru View Post
    That's great. And now they HAVE added one and everyone is losing their collective shit because SCH was destroyed in the process. So the customer doesn't always knwo what's best. This should teach them.
    And if SGE turns out great, what am I learning exactly?
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    Sage is the type of healing class that FFXIV needed for a while now. A class that does damage and healing simultaneously is a nice shake up with how to heal in the game rather than "This is a healer who has more damage buttons". The problem isn't that there are too many healers, the problem is that SE doesn't seem to know how to incorporate healers into the game. There are more healing specs, and more variety in healing specs, in WoW and it's not even close.

    Blaming this on the consumer is incorrect in this instance. Healing in FFXIV has been incredibly boring for a while, and if this is SE's version of Discipline Priest than the good FAR outweighs the bad for the new expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erinellza View Post
    As a RDM main, please don't do this. :')
    I second this.
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