Stop the WoWificaton (ui mods)

[Karthunk]

"to end your aggression" says the man, hahaha. There is a phrase that says, “When there is a Racist in the table and all accept it, all are Racist”. Meaning, if you accept the illegality, you are participating for braking the rules that you accepted, so you are an illegal person. Is it that clear?

Here is another saying: "Mind your own damn business". Meaning if people are engaged in acts that have no effect on you kindly leave them alone. Is that clear?

[Arckrin]

It's clear you have very skewed priorities and believe in "guilt by silence" for lack of a better way of putting it.

Go outside, enjoy the fresh air.

In other words, you are saying I have a “limit view point” which clearly we are discussing here a legal aspect dude… it is illegal end of the discussion. You don't know my beliefs and “guilt by silence” it is a double interpretation sword of doubt.

With all respect, I do not tell you what to do… So I return your “Go outside, enjoy the fresh air” You need for your morality and ethics.

Here is another saying: "Mind your own damn business". Meaning if people are engaged in acts that have no effect on you kindly leave them alone. Is that clear?

I thought was "Mind your own business" without the curse, and even there is a song of it from 1986. In the other hand, there is other that says “You cannot control the behaviour of others, but you can always choose how you respond to it.” If you respond, in this way, probably means these affect you more.

So may I ask you. Was this affect you? Or is it affecting you? If no, why you mind then? If yes, are you incurring on illegal activities that involve.

"2.1 Cheating and Botting. You may not create or use any unauthorized cheats, bots, automation software, hacks, mods or any other unauthorized software or hardware designed to modify the Game and gameplay. In addition, you may not take advantage of game system bugs and exploits during gameplay."

"2.7 Modifying or Creating Derivative Software. You may not modify or cause to be modified any files that are a part of the Game or Service in any way not expressly authorized by Square Enix, and may not make any derivative works of the Game."

[DRHaymaker]

In other words...

No, in other words, I'm telling you have way too much time on your hands to be so upset about people's personal choices in aesthetics. There's nothing to discuss - people who use those addons know the risk, and has been such the case since ACT first came onto the scene. What you and others are actually doing, is moral brow beating. If you feel that passionate, go witch hunt - I doubt you have the social standing to lose over it. Maybe you can revive "ModHunters"

[Arckrin]

No, in other words, I'm telling you have way too much time on your hands to be so upset about people's personal choices in aesthetics. There's nothing to discuss - people who use those addons know the risk, and has been such the case since ACT first came onto the scene. What you and others are actually doing, is moral brow beating. If you feel that passionate, go witch hunt - I doubt you have the social standing to lose over it. Maybe you can revive "ModHunters"

Dude bla bla bla stop judging others and assuming things! I am not upset, I am sick and tired of people discussing this! It is illegal, dude. Don't you get it? Yoshi-P say it, it is at the ToS. He said "I recommend no to do it". If you understand and says they know the risk, move on and do not justify them. Besides, do not lecture me about ACT, I was there in HW when it was created by the WOW guy. And we know how was starting to be use for elitist people (DPS heads).

I don't know what is or who is "ModHunters".

If you want my personal opinion. As a game developer and 3D modeler. YES, I don't like addons, mods or what ever 3rd tool parties that modify the game experience on how it was intended. Happy?

[DRHaymaker]

You: "I'm not upset"
Also you: "I'm sick and tired of discussing this! It's illegal! Also, this is like if you were quiet around racism, then you're also racist! BUT I'M NOT UPSET!"

Your occupation is meaningless. Your game experience isn't being changed. Again - go outside, enjoy the fresh air.

[Breakbeat]

Here is another saying: "Mind your own damn business". Meaning if people are engaged in acts that have no effect on you kindly leave them alone. Is that clear?

Yeah, absolutely, 100% agreed.

Also:

"to end your aggression" says the man, hahaha. There is a phrase that says, “When there is a Racist in the table and all accept it, all are Racist”. Meaning, if you accept the illegality, you are participating for braking the rules that you accepted, so you are an illegal person. Is it that clear?

We're talking about a video game, brother. In this video game discussion, to make a point, you're bringing up some deeply moral stuff about sitting at a table with racists. Let me re-iterate ... we're talking about a video game. How 'bout using an appropriate analogy instead of setting up a straw man by insinuating anyone who is OK with UI mods is OK with racism.

My god, man, that's asinine. Come on. I mean, really, you gotta go read up on this stuff if you think your debate technique is on point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man

What's next? If one has ever witnessed another human littering, and failed to call the police, that person condones murder? 'Cause that's exactly what you're saying: complacency with small victimless crimes is equal to condoning something as morally reprehensible as racism.

Video game UI mods are benign. Live and let live.

And just out of my back pocket, I pull a reasonable analogy which proves you don't need to bring up racism in this discussion:

Using addons is like when people hang stuff from their rear-view mirror in their car or place bumper stickers on their windshields.

- These actions are illegal (as are the mods, in the same sense "against the law" that SE wrote)
- A lot of people get away with it (just like here).
- Most people don't pull over to the side of the road when they see these infractions, and immediately call the police.
- Both addons, and fuzzy dice, have a negligible chance of affecting you personally, as one that doesn't hang dice or use addons. You may, very rarely, encounter someone who gains a slight advantage over you due to their addons. You may, very rarely, encounter another driver who rear-ends you because their fuzzy dice blocked their view.

There, branch off that and say your piece, and leave the racism discussions for somewhere outside of a video game forum.