Idea to make DF raids less annoying for tanks.

[Goji1639]

1. Playing a tank class and actually tanking content are 2 different things.

2. Uh yes it does. If you que as OT and the MT sucks bad enough you have to MT when you wanted to OT the whole purpose of you queing OT just went out the window.

3. "Every stupid little thing" Yeah, you're probably a joy to be around. I'm beginning to understand why you don't want to interact with others so much. Also if you're not seeing the issues that have been brought up, you just aren't reading them and comprehending.

Here lets review them again for you.

First up provoke and shirk work fine as is. Your suggested changes to provoke hinder the tanks ability to do their jobs by making it harder for them to juggle aggro as needed.

Second you are splitting tanks into 2 groups and then at the same time not. What's the point? When combined with your provoke changes your adding in role changes too if needed because the other person isn't doing their job well enough or are horribly out geared. Congrats you pointlessly added an additional role that may or may not be your qued for roll.

Third if talking to others is such a hassle, this isn't the kind of game for you. Do yourself a favor and find a solo game to play instead. You will be happier.

1. No they're not.

2. That doesn't defeat the purpose; because it still serves a purpose the other 99 out of 100 times where the MT can tank just fine.

3. I've been addressing everything you've brought up; you just haven't been making good point. It doesn't mean there aren't good points to be made; it just means you're not capable.

All you and others keep saying basically is "what's the point?" I've already explained the point. To prevent the same dumb conversation and guessing game from being required for every stupid little thing you queue for.

Well the problem is that it's both awful and unnecessary. You want to split tank queues and create an entire queue role specifically to enable off-tank mains that want to queue for a fight and not have any responsibility? There's an entire separate role for people that want to queue for a fight and then not tank the boss. It's called 'DPS'.

Anything else is going to require a conversation, and I realize that with you never having actually played a tank- the role for which you are making suggestions- that it might be completely lost on you that that conversation is easy and completely non-verbal in 95% of cases. The other tank puts stance up? Has better gear? Congrats, they're MT. It is an interaction with no difficulty whatsoever and does not require a mechanical or 'aesthetic' change.

Most people don't even pay attention to chat, so asking in chat has about a 50/50 shot at accomplishing anything. Non verbal communication also rarely works out competently; I can't count the number of times I've put on stance and pulled just to have the boss immediately provoked off of me. And when I'm not tanking I'm frequently watching aggro yoyo back and forth for no reason. It's stupid; it would be better if everyone had clear roles.